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astroman

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Fantastic results! Did Rosenthal stack multiple sheets?
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Bigbizo8

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Awesome pics buddy
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mr thik

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hey soma 

i was wondering if you can help me with some info on dr rosenthal

i was considering him for the belladerm girth enhancement 
and want to get some feedback from you


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mr thik

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Is it safe to stack belladerm?
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soma

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Eq,

That is how I start my day-
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uptownblk

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@soma... you have amazing results.  Do you know if there any videos of the grip in use?  
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soma

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He stacked the sheets on me, two sheets and so far no worries.

Regarding ligs: yes I believe it allows for greater gains then hanging alone (I am a long time hanger and like you was no longer getting gains). I gain steadily now-


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Up,

The grip comes with a dvd with video on it, but other than that I'm unaware of grip videos.

Thick,
PM me with any questions you might have-
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Do you think patients who get the lig cut should use a stretcher or instead opt to hanging with weights?

If I were to get my ligs cut I'd like to be stretching as much as possible without injuring myself, I'd imagine a stretching device would be best for that right?


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My Lengthening Surgery (lig cut) Report & Results
My Extender Report and Log
12/17/11 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
05/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
29/01/15 - 7" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG 
31/05/15 - 7.25" BPEL x 5.6" MSEG

Goal: 8" BPEL x 5.75" MSEG
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soma

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To a certain degree it appears that weight is more important than time. Dr R indicates that this is consistent with his experience, and this is somewhat the consensus of the non-surgical PE crowd over at Thundersplace. Without ligs as constraints I believe it necessary to hang over 6lbs for an hour plus a day, more if you have a larger diameter penis.

Also, hanging "heavy" weight doesn't preclude the use of an all day hanger or stretcher. For quite a period I would use the all day hanger (grip) and hang heavy 1+ hour a day. I've since stopped the all day hanger, and my growth rate hasn't changed. Anecdotally this supports the weight versus time argument on the weight side, however I think at least 30-45 minutes a day might be a minimum time necessary to stretch the tissue sufficiently.

I do more.

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So you would recommened using weights rather than a stretching device soma?

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My Lengthening Surgery (lig cut) Report & Results
My Extender Report and Log
12/17/11 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
05/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
29/01/15 - 7" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG 
31/05/15 - 7.25" BPEL x 5.6" MSEG

Goal: 8" BPEL x 5.75" MSEG
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Also, another quick question soma, whats the difference between a stretcher and an extender, or isn't there one? Thank you!

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My Lengthening Surgery (lig cut) Report & Results
My Extender Report and Log
12/17/11 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
05/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
29/01/15 - 7" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG 
31/05/15 - 7.25" BPEL x 5.6" MSEG

Goal: 8" BPEL x 5.75" MSEG
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All day stretchers are often elastic attachment devices that attach to a leg or ankle versus extender type products usually have a base o-ring of some kind and either a noose or strap behind the glans. I have found the former easier to wear and less detectable. Also, with the extender type you are only stretching the skin from the base to the glans because the base restricts the skin.

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Guys, here is the reason why im asking apparently the bloke below had fundi and suspensory cut, this is what i found on andropenisforum ( i dont know if its ok to post links to other pe sites just google this ):
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In the 5th World Congress of Penile Enhancement, sponsored by the American Academy of Phalloplasty Surgeons, held in Bal Harbour, Florida, USA, the Brazilian doctor Bayard Ollé Fischer Santos presented a fully documented case on pictures from the beginning to the end of the treatment, which basically consisted of the same technique used by the previous record-holder, in which the patient began with 11cm and reached 27 cm, with a gain of 16 cm. The summary recorded in the congress annals defining the entire experiments is as follows:

"Unprecedented case report: Increase of 16 cm in penis length by means of surgery and physiotherapy".

This work introduces a case of length increase from 11 cm to 27 cm. Patient JCV, 32, Caucasian, was seen on 10/11/94 alleging dissatisfaction with his penis size, the dimension of which were 11cm long and 10.5cm of perimeter during erection.

He had prostectomy on 02/20/95. After healing, he used traction by gravitational force with PLD device until 04/30/95 when he was submitted to a severance of suspensory and fundiform ligaments of the penis and liposculpture. After healing he resumed use of PLD. On 04/27/97 he underwent new surgery to correct penis asymmetry as a result of fat reabsorption and removal of some lipid cysts. After healing, he started using dynamometric traction with the "Jes Extender®" device.

During the year of '97 he made two more adjustments in the force to be used on the device, which was between 900-1000 grams. He returned on 03/28/2000, as he had reached the maximum stretching length of the device (27cm), which was even slack now, and requested another 5-cm stretching bar. He reported that he had worn the "Jes Extender®" device in the last three months for more than 12 hours a day with a traction between 900-1000 grams and applied a vial of Pregnyl® (5000 UI Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) every 15 days. He reports that his member reached 27cm in length during erection and that he has been having busy sexual activity and good quality erections. We know that a flaccid penis, when stretched, reaches the erection length, which is verified on the use of the device by the patient with its maximum stretch, which is 27 cm.

The importance of this record is not only associated to this patient's amazing penis enlargement, which was even beyond the medical opinion that considered the treatment successful when the penis reached 16 cm in length, but also to attest that a penis can be really enlarged, with no risk to its functions, in spite of many doctors' insistence that penis enlargement is impossible.

This notable fact could not go unnoticed by the international press. The newspaper "Le Monde", of Paris, France, on the 25th of January 2001, reported this record, which was considered for registration in the Guinness Book. At the time the record registration was waiting for the research department to sanction the publication. The registration of this record in the Guinness book was subsequently approved, attesting to its scientific credibility and acknowledging it as the case of greatest penis enlargement in a single patient.

Source: Andrology Clinic of Dr. Bayard Ollé Fischer Santos
Author of the book "A Medida do Homem" (The Measure of Man)
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@KFH - on weights vs. stretchers, I was recently in touch with Gary Alter, who said that the post-op regimen involved hanging weights 15 - 30 mn per day, three times a day. He didn't mention using a stretcher. FWIW
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