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93-  don't be jealous YET.  Please.   It's swelling dude. I press on it, and I can see a thumb print!!    If anything be nervous for me.. I haven't seen anyone else on here as swollen for as long. 
If I gain .5 and a little extra and get more aesthetic when it heals it would be a huge win. 

Let's give it another month.  I think that's the safe bet.  Being swollen is interesting though, it barely fits into the pumper when pumped up.
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93-  don't be jealous YET.  Please.   It's swelling dude. I press on it, and I can see a thumb print!!    If anything be nervous for me.. I haven't seen anyone else on here as swollen for as long. 
If I gain .5 and a little extra and get more aesthetic when it heals it would be a huge win. 

Let's give it another month.  I think that's the safe bet.  Being swollen is interesting though, it barely fits into the pumper when pumped up.


I think I'm going back at the end of august if I don't change my mind. I may get my hands on some anavar if you found that it worked out for you and I'll just ask for a very similar application to yours. If I was in your position I'd be so freaking excited haha

Edit: But honestly I just wanted like .3 in gains nothing wild.. .5 would be a gift from the gods

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Don't do Fft - just stick with your plan - you may still gain from this round too. You will have some time to take a breather as you see what is going on with this. There are guys on here who had a bad round but it did not predict the next round. As you are in college I would even write before the next visit and say I got nothing or next to it, if that is still the case, and ask for a discount. It took me 5 visits to get 1.5 but it is a really good 1.5". Fft has such a dodgey record don't go down that path.
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Don't do Fft - just stick with your plan - you may still gain from this round too. You will have some time to take a breather as you see what is going on with this. There are guys on here who had a bad round but it did not predict the next round. As you are in college I would even write before the next visit and say I got nothing or next to it, if that is still the case, and ask for a discount. It took me 5 visits to get 1.5 but it is a really good 1.5". Fft has such a dodgey record don't go down that path.


Yeah you're right I don't think I ever would it's just expensive and frustrating flying so far when all these doctors (Guinta, Heller) are basically right next door. Wish I lived near the west coast. 
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93 lets post updates on Tues -- one month post is a good measure I think. You doin ok man? 
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Hey what's up brock, can't believe its already been a month haha [cool]

Tuesday's the 4th so I'm just going to post now assuming I'll be out doing reckless things with beer and fireworks in two days.

*ABOUT ONE MONTH POST PROCEDURE*

NO flaccid gains in girth, now I have this weird neck effect. Nodule/ clump formation under left side that isn't very visible but definitely noticeable to the touch. I think the mound/ ridge is what the girl I hooked up with was talking about. Also should mention I have a continuous dull pain around the nodule/ lumpy area that just feels..weird.

NO erect gains in girth, penis looks and feels exactly the same except for the bump now on the left side.

Nodule could have formed from lack of stretching. The doctor told me his office would provide and stretcher but they said they didn't have any on hand so they would ship me one instead. They never sent it. So it took a while to finally buy one and have it shipped to me.

I would have honestly been fine with maybe a bump or 2/ some uneveness if I had even .2" increase in girth. But I'm not even getting that. I essentially paid $3k for a bump on my penis and a swollen mushroom effect when flaccid. I've also been on a light anavar cycle for a little under a week now thanks to the generosity of a friend. We'll wait and see if that has any effect.

I would hate to think that Dr. C would have lied about what was injected or that I was taken advantage of some sort of way especially seeing brock have such great effects, but it's hard to believe no gains was even possible especially at this age. If it weren't for the bumps I'd think I was injected with nothing at all. 
Maybe it was a mistake admitting so early that I wanted to come back for multiple rounds? I guess it would be bad business to walk out with a perfect penis on the first procedure.. Maybe it's just the skeptic in me though

I will call the office about scheduling another appointment soon. I know one should normally wait longer but I want to see what the doc thinks of all this. Can't say I'm mad just frustrated and defeated seeing 6 months of savings turn into nothing but a bump.

If anyone has had GOOD-MODERATE results with HA fillers in the US and has any pics on hand, I would be more than happy to take a look if you sent them to me. I'm not a member yet for some odd reason even after paying and starting this thread so I can't really browse the forum for pics so it would be much appreciated!


Also my 21st is coming up.. Have there been any other success stories for the Elsit implant like Aero and his bf? Would it be crazy to assume that he's somehow improved his method in someway or are those two just anomalies? 

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Hey 93 I know I told you wait more than 6 weeks - but if I had no gains I would do that same - I am not sure what I would be waiting for. I am pretty certain that you weren't set up to save money by using bad PMMA. There are guys that have had this happen but I never heard it happening twice to the same guy. My first course of action would be (if it was me) to schedule the 6-week appointment and tell them exactly what you wrote - you paid $3k for a bump, are in school and can't afford to spend more money to try again and see if you can make some deal for cost. Flying and all of that was my biggest expense so you are still paying. On the bright side, your dick is very aesthetic 
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If anyone has had GOOD-MODERATE results with HA fillers in the US and has any pics on hand, I would be more than happy to take a look if you sent them to me. I'm not a member yet for some odd reason even after paying and starting this thread so I can't really browse the forum for pics so it would be much appreciated!




Can you see the photos now?
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Can you see the photos now?


Yes! Thank you!
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Hey 93 I know I told you wait more than 6 weeks - but if I had no gains I would do that same - I am not sure what I would be waiting for. I am pretty certain that you weren't set up to save money by using bad PMMA. There are guys that have had this happen but I never heard it happening twice to the same guy. My first course of action would be (if it was me) to schedule the 6-week appointment and tell them exactly what you wrote - you paid $3k for a bump, are in school and can't afford to spend more money to try again and see if you can make some deal for cost. Flying and all of that was my biggest expense so you are still paying. On the bright side, your dick is very aesthetic 


This is exactly what I'm going to do I hope they can see it from my perspective. Thanks for the compliment though at least I can hold on to that for a bit [smile]
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I know this wont make you feel any better, but this kind of thing happens with all methods. 

Smartman had Alloderm shrunk to nothing in months, having had to go through a big surgery and he paid a more than you.
Messageman went through an even bigger surgery and paid even more money for his original dermal graft and it shrunk to nothing.
BigJohn had FFT and it all absorbed in a couple of months. 
Subtle77 paid a shit load for Cymtera that was gone in 4 months.
dinogoesrawr paid for over 20cc of HA and gained nothing. 

I doubt it's of much comfort to you, but at least you aren't a one off and they all paid more than you. We've seen it happen quite a few times. I'm not aware of anyone who has gained nothing from more than one round of PMMA. 
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I know this wont make you feel any better, but this kind of thing happens with all methods. 

Smartman had Alloderm shrunk to nothing in months, having had to go through a big surgery and he paid a more than you.
Messageman went through an even bigger surgery and paid even more money for his original dermal graft and it shrunk to nothing.
BigJohn had FFT and it all absorbed in a couple of months. 
Subtle77 paid a shit load for Cymtera that was gone in 4 months.
dinogoesrawr paid for over 20cc of HA and gained nothing. 

I doubt it's of much comfort to you, but at least you aren't a one off and they all paid more than you. We've seen it happen quite a few times. I'm not aware of anyone who has gained nothing from more than one round of PMMA. 


That actually does make me feel better haha. I guess I felt that since I wanted it so bad that I deserved better results but that's definitely not the case. Went back to Aero's thread with Elist and saw the pics Reklaw posted from a failed implant.. I'm not sure I've ever felt more empathy for a guy. 

I'm going to give it one more college try before giving in but man seeing some of these pics was pretty sobering. You guys should have some sample pics about what can go wrong for every surgery open to non-members. It's not enough to just read about it when the desperation levels are this high for a bigger penis.
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93,  you must be pissed and confused. I'm definitely a real person and was definitely there the same day as you. I even asked to meet up because I was so nervous about the procedure!
I'm sure the doc was using real product that day as I definitely got real results.  I also told him right at the beginning I was all in for 3 rounds, and 3 rounds max if results were decent. 
Could you have gotten a bad bottle??  Maybe?
Could you have freak DNA that does something weird to breakdown the PMMA?  

I truly believe Doc C isn't out to screw anyone. He has a bunch of the product in his own body and wise or not (we'll see in 20 years) he trusts it. 

I only used the stretcher a few times before I ripped a blister on my glans and haven't worn it since.  I just take my cialis every day- to not let it turtle. 
He was out of the stretchers for me too and I actually met up with former employee, the famous Wade, on Friday before I left in San Diego to get one. 

I'm so curious if Dr. C will do anything different for you the next time, free or heavily discounted round 2? 

I'm real sorry man.. for real.  Hopefully you get a huge collagen push in the next few weeks. 

By the way I also am still having weird pains, and not without complications myself, which I'll post in my log tomorrow.  

Wish you the best bro and keep us posted and if Avanti tries to make things right if it goes that direction. 




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Somehow the fact that some random person I don't know empathises with my situation actually makes me feel good, i guess it's because I've never told anyone, people see that I'm depressed/angry/insecure and think that I'm like it for no reason so people act hostile towards me. Or maybe I'm just a narcissist and love people feeling sorry for me, either way, Cheers East
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