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Same here bro.  I'll be 40 in the fall but most guess my age as early to mid 20's.  Diet, exercise and hormone optimization.  An ex girlfriend told me the other day that I must have an anti-aging gene.  lol

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TO the OP..

You need to add Zinc in your supplements as Zinc is part of your semen. I do agreed 100 percent with your diet and your daily habits. I call it the caveman diet or the MMA Fighter diet both are exactly the same

Just a question, have you tried having sex without ejaculating?? Hold your sperm for a month or two and you will discover the caveman in you!!!

Congratulations!!!!
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As for Zinc, check diet under point 2 (many items high in zinc). Check point 6 regarding withholding semen. I do that by default anyway... I'm fixed. ;P
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Dude I think I might pick up on your protocol. I am only 24 but I know for a fact my T levels are probably in the shitter... I should get a blood test.
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Pumpkin seeds are a real easy source of zinc. Easy to carry, not bad tasting
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Originally Posted by miracle7.5x6
I take steps to increase HGH production naturally.  I also inject HGH in the morning 1IU - 1.5IU's 5 days per week.  Nothing compares to true pharmaceutical HGH.  I've tried every HGH releaser under the sun and every peptide known to man.  Serostim HGH @ 1IU - 1.5IU's and I feel 15 years old again.  Expensive?  Yes.  Worth it?  YES!!!!  I sleep like a baby and look 5 years younger.  At my age, nothing is going to come close to true human growth hormone.  I've had my growth hormone serum and IGF-1 levels checked.  I'm unstoppable.  My friends keep looking older and I keep looking younger.  Its party time chumps!


Hi M7.5, can you elaborate on this injection of HGH? if u can't here, a PM will be great. I travel to countries where this can be sold over the counter since I have no insurance in the US thanks to our politics...

My libido is slowing down, I do not know why. I have not changed anything, but have been with the same dame for a few weeks....bored perhaps?

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Funny Mustang2020, I am with you on that one. Miracle is a guy pushing 40 who is passing for being in his mid twenties. While I am working on looking like I'm pushing 40... LOL.

I've taken HGH in oral form, under the tongue, but not by injection. I do regularly inject 250mg of testosterone every 3 weeks, but it only gets me to midpoint between regular level range for test from teenagers to very old people. I'd really like to get closer to 25 year=old levels but my doctors says its plenty. I am also hesitant to go too high using an outside source, thinking I'd better keep the injection levels low and supplement my testosterone through more sustainable natural methods like M7.5 suggests here in this thread.

Lately I've even been toying with the idea of trying to get ahold of Somatropin, which is, if I'm not mistaken, quite pure synthetic human growth hormone. 

http://www.somatropin.net/

In Europe it sells for a lot per daily dose, but it is banned as a sports doping product, making it not only expensive but also next to impossible to obtain. No doctor will ever prescribe it here. It is even taking many months of examinations and testing and still no HGH prescription can be obtained from the specialized hospital service for my niece who is way too tiny: she looks half her age which isn't a good thing for a small child. But the hospitals can't get ahold of it due to the ban without making a huge case study and taking forever.

Whomever designed this policy is really trying to keep us from getting access to its health benefits. Or should I say they only want the rich to be able to stay young? Also might the many benefits of HGH menace the profits of big pharma? 

Miracle, I guess you must use the special subcutaneous injection pens similar to those for insulin, where you just dial in the dose and just press it in? I calculated that the cost for 5 doses of 1 to 1.5iu to be about $100/week unless mistaken. If you know a cheaper way to find this, I'm game. Being older, I might need more and don't have a substantially high income. These prices for a product to use regularly for the rest of your life make phalloplasty look cheap.

So far the best online pricing I have found is at Juice Underground but still some discounted products cost $6,000... I guess that this has become a very interesting way to increase profits when they charge insanely high prices for very small quantities of product which cannot cost nearly as much as this to produce. Here is from a bodybuilding thread in a post dated 2001, so it is really quite old and maybe no longer relevant, but since some of us go to Tijuana it might be an option.

"Mexico really is your best bet for gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - (Humatrope) FDA has taken gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - off the schedule-3 List so yes you can get a 3 month supply of this product even with a Mexican script, and because of the 1988 aids act you can go as high as 17iu's daily so that is allot of gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - you can get with out the worries of the feds kicking in your door.

there is allot of pharmacies in Mexico that will do good business and offer good pricing, I have been buying from Mexico for several years and never lost a dime."

Let me know your thoughts on that? Maybe there's a doctor in Avanti Derma's medical building who could write an anti-aging script? The very best "grey market" online price I could find for a reputed generic brand (Riptropin) is $2.50/iu which is pretty unbeatable, hence the supplier seldom has any in stock. The usual price for it is closer to $4/iu. Otherwise one must go with a multiplier effect of big pharma products which are FDA approved and cost several times more. That is viable if your insurance picks up part of the tab. For me that is nixed because I have insurance in a country where it is a banned product. Mainly because France is the largest per capita pharma consumption in the world, so they sure don't want them to suddenly all become healthy!

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Hi M7.5, can you elaborate on this injection of HGH? if u can't here, a PM will be great. I travel to countries where this can be sold over the counter since I have no insurance in the US thanks to our politics...

My libido is slowing down, I do not know why. I have not changed anything, but have been with the same dame for a few weeks....bored perhaps?


Any other form other than injectable HGH is a waste!  Up until a certain age, secretagogues are effective in some people causing the pituitary to release GH after receiving the GHRH signal.  Intense exercise does indeed increase HGH output.  I've tried it all.  NOTHING compares to pharmaceutical grade HGH.  I have also used Riptropin® (verified on site and Mass Spectrometry) with good results but it doesn't compare to HUMAN GRADE HGH.  I take Serostim® at a dose of 2IU's five days per week with two non-adjacent days off.  I take it upon rising so I still benefit from any endogenous GH output while sleeping.  The results speak for themselves.  I am contemplating uploading a full body shot with my face blurred.  You'd shit your pants!  I have a body most 20 year olds would kill for.  Even with high T and HGH supplementation, nothing comes without serious work.  Diet, sleep and exercise are critical.  Without these three... you're wasting your money.  You will NEVER find legit human grade HGH for cheap.  It ain't gonna happen.  IMHO, Riptropin® is the best UG HGH there is, bar none.  I have an excellent source for Riptropin®.   Pretty much all legit "Rips" come from the same source, The Provide, who sells to some other select resellers on the web.  Serostim®, is better than Omnitrope, Humatrope, Nutropin, Saizen, Jintropin, Hygetropin, etc, etc, etc.  It is phenomenal.  It is made to help AIDS patients from muscle wasting, etc.  I felt it from the first injection.  It is VERY expensive.

If you're under 40, I don't recommend HGH.  Synergistically, T and HGH work very well together.  I feel like a million dollars.

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IGF-R3 is my choice over HGH all day.

6lbs of pure fat lost in 30 days. 2lbs of lean muscle put on. New muscle I might add. How do I know this? A full dexa scan told the story. Changed nothing in my workout, just added 30 days of IGF.

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What is UG HGH? Does UG stand for something or is it a brand type? Thanks for the info. Just curious
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UG = UnderGround.  Sometimes abbreviated UGL.  Not FDA regulated.  You have to rely solely on your supplier and whomever supplies them, etc.  Some are trustworthy and run by good people.  Some are run by scum of the earth.  There are many fakes out there as well.  Bootleg copies of HGH are everywhere.  Always good to get a Mass Spec done and to verify with blood work.  It is necessary with HGH to check both blood serum levels and IGF-1 levels as other agents/drugs/peptides are often substituted for HGH as they are cheaper and still will elevate IGF-1 levels or some can show a false GH serum reading.  Privatemdlabs.com is an affordable place for blood work since insurance won't always cover it.  I have the GH levels of a 21 year old.  Right where I want them.  My testosterone on the other hand... well, that's a bit higher!

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Insulin like growth factor... Testosterone increases it.  HGH when processed by the liver turns into it.  It is wonderful stuff.  Wonderfully anabolic and to an extent, thermogenic, yes, IGF has an amazing effect on the body.  The specific benefits of HGH are not solely based on it's ability to increase IGF though.  HGH does far more than just IGF alone.  Your body likes it.  It needs it.  However at your age Hulkster, you don't need it!  Your pituitary is still likely churning out plenty.
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Thanks for clarifying. That was what I had guessed but wasn't sure. Thanks for the private lab info...I wasn't aware of that...you're a wealth of info!
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Hi Miracle,

I am finding out that there's no way  to buy genuine Serostim without a doctor's prescription. The kits online at $1,100 to $1,600 are said to be counterfeit- so I will be trying my first kit of UG HGH in a few days, Riptropin which has matching batch control numbers. I look forward to its invigorating effects and hope it will accelerate healing from the Russian surgery. I'll start at 2ml and slowly move up if not feeling any effects, as this isn't real Pharma HGH. Yet some guys say it is dosed powerfully, so it may suffice.

Do you recommend taking anything else with the Rips? I am toying with the idea of Melanotan-II once the scar from recent surgery is gone so it doesn't become permanent. I'd take it for cosmetic reasons as well as to boost libido. I've heard of a lot of hard wood with small doses of this! Using less helps prevent the many side effects, starting at .25mg daily and gradually moving up to 1 or 1.5mg max. 

I noted that The Hulk (any relation to The Hulk in the bodybuilding forums?) says that "IGF-R3 is my choice over HGH all day". Is it useful or helpful with the rest of the kit I am going to be doing, only looking for anti-aging and not building up muscle more than typical for a slender guy who is fit and only a bit cut. The best pricing for IGF-1 LR3 I've come across is at around $200 for 5mg. Is there a proper protocol for that and is it worth it? I'm wondering if it won't be redundant with HGH.

I am trying to orient myself in this maze of injectables. I've been injecting testosterone for a year with great satisfaction, so Test and HGH are no brainers, the rest remaining to be discovered.

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IGF-R3 is normally dosed around 100mcgs - 160mcgs per day and often the dose is divided.  It is typically best dosed after a work out.  You would get the same libido boost from Bremelanotide as you would from Melanotan II but without the tanning effects.  MTII can cause permanent discoloration of the skin and dark spots that some people find bothersome.  Riptropin is an excellent alternative to pharma grade HGH.  Run it at 2IU's five days per week.  Take it in the morning upon rising.  As far as libido goes, testosterone and growth hormone should be plenty to keep your engine roaring!  Make sure your doc is monitoring your Free Testosterone, SHBG and especially Estradiol.

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