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GrowGrowGrow

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Yeah 6 girth would be great - will be interesting to see where I land with EG.
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Looks very good
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Yeh i think with a 7 el you will only gain 1/5 of an inch girth gain with 6ml . 

I'm doing it with Androfil in London , 

Gonna do a progress next few days [smile]


There's no wa with 7"EL you will gain 1/2" with 6ml, not even close.

You're looking at about 17ml for 1/2" EG gains on a 7" EL . Perhaps even a tiny bit more.

EDIT my apologies, you said 1/5" not 1/2"

I need glasses.

I would say you're about spot on with 1/5" for 6ml on a 7".

There's far too many people quoting their HA results, a few days after getting it and that is NOT the end result you get.


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Hey just realized you're going in today GGG?

Cool, it's a nice relaxed experience.

My tips are in my own thread but the biggest one I can give you mentally is to understand that the swelling and water storage are  BIG deal.

You will think you're absolutely huge initially, and it's fun to look at but for as long as 10+ days after you're still not 100% looking at the end result.

It's easy to get a little sad but just focus on the reality that it takes about 17ml approx for 1/2" gain erect.  You'll gain at least a half inch if not more initially from 6ml but a huge amount of that is bruising, swelling, water retention. 

It will sadly go. If you're realistic and have that in your head, you'll be happy. I've so far had 12 ml total and gained nearly half an inch , that's an accurate measurement a few weeks after the op.


Also big TIP, when you go in apply that damm cream like 15minutes before you get the injections or cannular. It takes a while to set in, and use the whole dam tub.
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oh last bit of advice.

Do NOT have sex for about 14 days.,Ignore the 5 day thing, that is nothing like enough.

You can and absolutely will MOVE HA if you have vigorous sex before 14 days. 

There's a huge temptation to stick that engorged, swollen cock in anything and everything but don't.

You absolutely will regret it, leave it 14 days.

 
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There's no wa with 7"EL you will gain 1/2" with 6ml, not even close.

You're looking at about 17ml for 1/2" EG gains on a 7" EL . Perhaps even a tiny bit more.

EDIT my apologies, you said 1/5" not 1/2"

I need glasses.

I would say you're about spot on with 1/5" for 6ml on a 7".

There's far too many people quoting their HA results, a few days after getting it and that is NOT the end result you get.




Haha thats why i reread things twice from now on [smile]
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Thanks guys,

Hi Dexrterphall, I read all your posts and I understand it's mainly swelling etc at the moment I'm hoping for +1/2 an inch as the end result with 15ml. I just took the above photo right after the first 10mls so people can see what happens during the entire recovery period. I'll continue to update. Today it's even bigger (swelled with nocturnal erection etc) and it's staying much bigger then yesterday soft - I'm just enjoying it while it lasts, I don't know that it would fit in many people when fully erect right now lol - but I'm taking your advice and waiting 14 days before I try it out.
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So - day 3 - some bruising on 1 side only (about what I expected) however I do have my first concerns - flaccid my penis looks great however as I am uncercumsised when I get semi erect and retract the forskin it does not look good, it's like my orginal penis is popping out of a bun. It seems as though the first 2/3 of my penis have been filled and are thicker, but the last 1/3 toward the glands looks untreated with no filller at all, this is even more obvious when fully erect. The Dr opted not to induce an erection for the first procedure which in hindsight I think might have been a mistake (they usually do, I think they thought I was a shower maybe more then a grower so thought flaccid would be ok...)

Looking at it I think I'll need the last 5ml all in the end to even it out, I know this will thicken the skin over the glans when not erect but it needs to look right when hard. I think once the end is filled it will hang even longer which isn't a bad thing and flair over the glans similar to how it did before, just thicker. There is no way I can massage what is required forward from were the filler is currently sitting and I think this would ruin the good results in the first 2/3 anyway... have to see what the Dr says, but I think being uncercumcised might complicate things a bit.

Currently FL 6 inches FBG 6 inches FMG 5.5 inches

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Yes I got Voluma, The Dr decided to do the 15ml over 2 rounds, 10ml this time and the next 5ml in 2 weeks time to fill in any issues and refine. I was suprised how painless it was and how big I've swollen with the 10ml - obviously it will go down, but love the weight, was a really good experience - once you get over the whole idea of 2 guys standing around fattening your penis. lol I also have a few lumps to smooth out - pic below is fresh out of the bandage 7 hours post procedure for a clean and rerap. So pre procedure FL 13.5cm (5.3 inches) FG 11cm (4.3 inches) 7 hours after (obviously still swollen etc) FL 16cm (6.2 inches) FBG 15cm (5.9 inches) It's about 14.5 mid girth and 13 behind the head soft. My hand can't close around it if I get a bit hard, but I'll wait till the swelling goes down to take real measurements. Pre and 7 hours post round 1 - 10ml below


Well done Growx3,

Keep up the massaging and let us know how it is going.

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So - day 3 - some bruising on 1 side only (about what I expected) however I do have my first concerns - flaccid my penis looks great however as I am uncercumsised when I get semi erect and retract the forskin it does not look good, it's like my orginal penis is popping out of a bun. It seems as though the first 2/3 of my penis have been filled and are thicker, but the last 1/3 toward the glands looks untreated with no filller at all, this is even more obvious when fully erect. The Dr opted not to induce an erection for the first procedure which in hindsight I think might have been a mistake (they usually do, I think they thought I was a shower maybe more then a grower so thought flaccid would be ok...) Looking at it I think I'll need the last 5ml all in the end to even it out, I know this will thicken the skin over the glans when not erect but it needs to look right when hard. I think once the end is filled it will hang even longer which isn't a bad thing and flair over the glans similar to how it did before, just thicker. There is no way I can massage what is required forward from were the filler is currently sitting and I think this would ruin the good results in the first 2/3 anyway... have to see what the Dr says, but I think being uncercumcised might complicate things a bit. Currently FL 6 inches FBG 6 inches FMG 5.5 inches Pic of brusing and hotdogging below


See what its like in a week , Once the swollen has gone perhaps it would have a tapered look to it and look more  normal ,I also have my foreskin and have wondered about this myself !
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Dr O, is it common what Growgrow shows with the unevenness while semi erect?

 

Growgrow, how does it look/feel erect?

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The whole being erect while injecting I think is pointless. I always thought it was critical but two major practitioners have said otherwise and what they told me makes sense. Lets say they do inject when erect, so cool, they inject at their normal points throughout but what happens the second you lose the erection? It all just concertinas back to essentially where it would have been when injected without an erection. There's really no difference. I have a near perfect result from two lots both no erection.

So on the photo you have where you're holding it and there's a lot at the base , that does look pretty darn uneven , way more so than I experienced but you should be able to massage some of that down. Mine never looked like that but I will say this, I had some width irregularities with mine initially , what I didn't realize was that once the swelling went down the difference was neglible at best. 

People really don't realize how much the various swelling/bruising/water retention etc effect the result with HA. I literally gained 3/4 of an inch from 6ml the first time. It felt HUGE and really heavy ( I miss those days lol) but once it was at it's final size, all the issues evaporated. 

I can't quite tell what i'm looking about in your image is that a before the HA and after HA on the right?

I would definately try to slowly massage some of that down towards the glans, even with swelling that seems oddly distributed but as I say, it is SOOO hard to tell what you're going to end up with . I interestingly had my swelling in the opposite, I had it more towards the glans and had far less at the balls end which looked kinda odd but it's all sorted itself out now pretty much. 

I bet if you measure the bit towards your glans it IS bigger than it was and you do have product there it's just it looks so huge at the swolen part. 

Measuring is really really vital , your mind plays  tricks on you, you make comparisons between swollen areas an not so swolen and think all kinds of things.

Here's the big deal, you choose HA, you paid a lot of money but you have a product in you that if something does go wrong it's quite easy to rectify so do not worry but I am telling you in 2 weeks from now, your dick will look very very different. It's only at that point you can start to truly objectively start assessing what you want to do next.

Try not to panic. You're in good hands with Dr Oates, he's done a lot of these. 

Give it time, do your massage, HA is still very pliable at this point, just gently move some down but do NOT be obsessed by trying to make it all equal, you can NOT massage swelling from place A to place B..


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Yep - the area with the greater girth shows the access point and that may cause pome more swelling there. Definitely keep on massaging. If anything product tends to move down with gravity - especially if there some extra swelling. So for now it is too early to tell the final result.
Un-cut guys are more difficult. You definitely don't want lots of product to end up in the foreskin and be like a ball in a sock. Much better more at the base and add some more later if needed. This is the main reason we like to do 2 sessions rather than just 1.

Erection induction - I now use less PgE1 to get a good semi rather than a raging hard on. There can be benefit to spread out the filler over the whole length of the shaft so that on erection it is all augmented. I think it is most important on guys who have a lot of shrinkage - but they have the greatest potential to have an issue once they have shrunk back down.

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Hi guys,

I've spoken with the doctor and he said pretty well everything you guys have say - I should just focus on massaging any lumps and we can fill toward the end in round 2 to even it out. I understand it's a bit more difficult with uncercumsised guys, and I'm not worried I'm sure it will be better after round 2. The main issue is that I varied in girth quite a bit when erect prior to HA (can see measured pics at the start of the thread) and I was mid girth thick and narrowest in the last 1/3 behind the glands, at this point the injections are just exentuating this natural feature.

To answer your question Dexterphall the photos you were looking at were both post HA soft. The 1st pic was just resting with forskin not retracted (looking pretty good) 2nd pic was pulling the forskin Back and is what happens when hard. (Wasn't hard at the time)

Ive been massaging and it has improved, but I think i'lll need most of the next round to fill in the last 3rd as this was rather narrow prior.

At day 7 all bruising has gone and pretty well fully healed. Looks really good and is hanging at a bit over 5.5 long straight out of underwear and 6 walking around naked, but soft girth has gone down to 5 which is still + 0.7 inches on what is was before which is great - feel better walking around without srinkage. I think all the swelling has gone and it feels normal, hoping I stay at this size. When hard I can notice the increased girth in the bottom 2/3 and I'm still trying to taper the mid third into the last 1/3, but looking pretty good. The injected areas still feel natural super hard under - for anyone who has pumped it feels a bit like a really light pump, a little softer in the thicken outer layer, but just as hard under which is a great feeling and awesome girthier look.

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Thanks Growgrowgrow,

Sounding good. looking forward to more pics and the second round.

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