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I'm not sure what is smaller than an insulin syringe - I will check out the BD ez glide although I think that is what I may have.
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When I tried PT-141, I used 31 gauge needles. they hardly hurt. I think the regular insulin needle is 29 gauge.
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Guys,
I was a personal trainer/builder in the 90s and 00s while in pharmacology school.
Seen over 6 years of testoserone, stanzanol, deca, hgh, in others.
I was shooting 2cc every 2 weeks of test for awhile to try because my best friend had been for many years, felt small in his shadow.

Once your past puberty all juice is going to do is give you a higher sex drive along with making it firmer,
Your not going to see anything in gain worth talking about, but it might help with repair with pumping and stretching possibly.

Be care and dont make my mistake and use or over use without knowing any health problems you are not aware of.

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Been doing bcp157 myself also. Nothing noticable. Maybe 3 weeks in
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Yes, the moment the sperm enters the egg, one's dick size has already been determined. Any chemicals or Testosterone, peptides and such will not increase the size. They may increase one's EQ or libido, but not the size. Of course there are a few people who respond to hanging and their EL may increase somewhat but generally speaking the size is what it is! [smile]
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I think guys on here are doing it for different reasons. It has had a 100% effect on my mood and muscle tone and EQ - but I was going through serious andropause at 54+ and diet and lifting weights were not helping my t levels anymore, or all the T booster supplements I bought. I am not sure I would mess with testosterone injections if I wasn't in andropause or getting long in the tooth - and agreed it is not going to do anything for dick size.

I will say that I am pretty certain I got .25 girth from a cycle of Anavar, however. The girth showed up, so to speak, in the middle of a cycle several months after my last pmma treatment and my girth had been stable for a while at 6.25 - then it jumped to 6.5. I will soon find out if that is permanent as the cycle which was 6 weeks just ended last night.

I just had silikon 2 weeks ago and decided not to push it with anymore Anavar after the first two weeks of recovery which just ended - as it was a visit for "here and there" issues - not a full treatment - so doing more Anavar makes no sense for me. I am happy with what I have which is a really good looking dick at 6.5" girth and 7+ length with no irregularities other than one very small dense spot which is deep down and only I can spot it from digging for issues. 

I am not trying to push drugs on anyone - but if there are guys that do Anavar I would be interested to know if they have a similar result or if their recovery gains are unusually big on a cycle.
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HD,

I was just stating generally and for other post about thinking juice will make it grow, your situ is why we have hormonal injections.
Some guys were talking about just juicing in high amounts, nothing pointed at you directly.
Actually your post have been a great contribution far as I see it.

Back to the subject, testoserone precursors like the newer versions of andro post 2005, and pineapple to stimulate hgh naturally in safe levels either for ED, growth, muscle or all 3

Im 43 and had testicle atrophy from bad infection from a uti spread to both and I waited until it was bad and was a day from needing surgery.
Which led to my lack of night time hard ons and sex drive, over 7 years I went from 5.8el and 5.1eg to 5.4 and 4.9. not to mention from my disabilty from 02

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Where do you get all of this stuff that is reliable, and not some olive oil that is going to cause sepsis when you inject it?  I ordered something from some site - but then I started reading bad things about it and got too nervous to use it.  I was thinking maybe having a better body would help me get over the fact my dick looks like it was mauled by a rottweiler.  Also, I really need to lose fat.  All the fat burners (and I got real ones) are not worth it.  T3, albuterol (clen is a nightmare), and other OTC supplements == minimal fat loss, even with diet and exercise.  The only way I have lost fat in the past is to put on more muscle and lift weights.  Cardio and diet and fat burners don't do anything for my BF percentage.  I have been pretty depressed after what has happened for ... I don't know - over a year now?  And I am not really out of shape but I did get fat.   Fortunately, that guy (and one of the reasons I left the board) appears to have had his account deactivated.   He went off on some psycho rant toward me about gaining weight, among other things... as if he'd cope with a mutilated dick so much better.  I gained like 15 lbs...the horror.  

But, it's like impossible to lose.  Maybe it's an age thing or maybe I am not disciplined enough.  Perhaps with additional assistance I'll be able to get rid of it.  I think HGH itself can burn fat and build muscle - moreso than test.  Since I never did a cycle, I read I should just do T... but alas I was afraid to inject that stuff (and why does it come in those crazy vials you have to crack?  I feel like it would cut my finger open....anyway...)

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Part 1:  The first year - recovering 1/2" girth lost to Peyronie's Disease (Round 1 & 2 Metacrill PMMA)
Part 2:  Things starting to go bad (I had nodules removed and excisions wouldn't heal)  (After Round 3)
Part 3: Resolving Round 3 problems caused entirely by USA doctors.
Part 4: All PMMA (from all 3 rounds) hardened 6-12 months after round 3.

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Resto, HGH is not a more potent fat burner than test and it is 3 or 4x as expensive. I do both (the synergy between both is what you want), but I'm lucky to have some unique ways to acquire pretty much everything at discounted rates.  
My advice. Don't be afraid of injections - they are MUCH safer than orals (minus anavar maybe.. girls can take anavar) 
They do not always come in amps (crazy vials you call them) most come in a 10ml bottle with a rubber stopper.
If you get the amps, you wrap it in a hand towel and snap it with your thumb to avoid any cuts. 
Advice on 'acquiring' legit gear --  at your gym there is a group of guys bigger, more muscular and more vascular than normal people. Those guys are need to be your new buddies.  You say hi for a few weeks. You ask for advice on lifting and nutrition..  maybe pay one to 'coach' you for 3 months.  Then, when they trust you- you ask for the goods.
95% of everyone you think is taking steroids is on steroids, females included.
Also, before you do anything (really, I'm serious here) go see a doctor and get a full hormone profile done.  I have all the tests needed so if you need to ask for it specific let me know.  Testosterone, free testosterone and estrogen are the big ones (there are others).  If your test is low you're not going to burn fat 1/2 as well as you should be. 
I tell this to everyone who asks me to help them.. I won't even start to give my opinion on their supplementation without looking at a doctors report. 

You can reach out to me in PM anytime..

Also, wtf is this story with someone harassing you on here!?  I'd love to see that thread-- I'd probably get pissed, but It would be an interesting read.  
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Thanks Brock.  I really appreciate it.  Yeah, I watched various ways of opening the amps... like even using the back of an open syringe (it's on youtube).   I didn't realize HGH wasn't as good as test... that is good to know!  I don't work out at a major chain gym anymore - but there were PLENTY of steroid users in there... my god.  I am just working out in a small, private gym.  I'll be in touch more later.  I don't wanna derail what the OP was talking about - or maybe it's already derailed.  It's been a while. lol.


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Also, wtf is this story with someone harassing you on here!?  I'd love to see that thread-- I'd probably get pissed, but It would be an interesting read


Here's the thread.  The person who was replying is no longer on the board.  He was just jumping into a topic he didn't understand, since he knew nothing about how physicians work & at that time - I had an open wound on my dick for 2 months and was clearly not happy. It was due to a dermatologist here (whose office partner was a friend of mine) that used a lazy suture method (simple suture, not vertical mattress - and the penis changes shape, so that was just not a good method) and wrong kind of sutures (silk - never a good choice except in eye surgery) &  so I wanted my part of the payment back.  He still got something from insurance, but I basically paid like $2000 to have him give me an open wound on my dick for 2 months that another doctor had to close by excising a lot of skin in a full surgery center.  Like I said to the other poster at the time, I had 1000 posts and no issue with anyone in all that time (like 2 years on here).  He had 25 posts in a month or so... and already started an issue with me & I think someone else prior to me but I can't remember. So, that should make it clear who the one w/ the problem is.  (Anyway, if you read it - just PM me)

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Part 1:  The first year - recovering 1/2" girth lost to Peyronie's Disease (Round 1 & 2 Metacrill PMMA)
Part 2:  Things starting to go bad (I had nodules removed and excisions wouldn't heal)  (After Round 3)
Part 3: Resolving Round 3 problems caused entirely by USA doctors.
Part 4: All PMMA (from all 3 rounds) hardened 6-12 months after round 3.

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Rest,

Neither test or hgh are reliable fat burners.
More the opposite, anyone into stacking uses test to gain, hgh is used as more repair without the side effects of over filling your system of to much test.
Unless your in andropause, test will burn only if you dont exceed natural levels otherwise you increase appetite and you gain.

Stazanol or Win v is used to shred while training.
Down side if you want to keep your liver let alone health stay away, to many friends of mine are constantly getting checked.

Clenbuterol works if you dont mind heart damage just like stacking any of the family that ends in buterol.
I never trusted the mail order 17 years ago, mexico in person was cheaper and safer, but then again the half life is why its no for sale here.

Like you said in trust, I would never inject anything that from somewhere you dont know.
You might lose more then your manhood.
I suggest seeing endocrinologist and see where you are with everything.
If what your doing for diet exercise isnt working after that, if your interested I can help you off the side of here for free. Not worth seeing something bad happening or having more time go with same results.

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AS- we can have a friendly debate on whether test is a fat burner or not via PM...  but my point is, if you don't HAVE it, you will not lose weight optimally. 
I may be a special case, everything works differently depending on the person (I can cut on Anadrol).  I don't hold water on any AAS. 
You see a 40+ year old guy with low test - what's the common trend?  Spare tire, love handles, fat-tits.
If you want to look like you did when you were 18 you need the hormone levels from that age. 
And I agree with a hormone profile baseline before anything. 
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Testosterone will contribute to fat burning. It will also lead to water retention if administered in high enough dosages. Which we often mistaken for fat.

Test causing an increase in appetite could be an indirect cause of fat gain. Equipoise is notorious for this but it isn't the compound tiself that causes fat gain.

Can we talk about tren though, tren's the boy. Dat insomnia though. [tongue]
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I do not tend to lose fat easily anymore.  I guess it is age or yoyo dieting in the past - who knows.  The best way for me to look better and lose fat (I discovered by accident) is to go heavy on the weights and protein...and low-ish on carbs.  I don't even need to go that low on carbs (I tried keto and it made no difference from just eating carefully).  I will naturally start losing fat with weight lifting. .  If I just to cardio and diet...or light weights and not tons of protein, nothing really changes at all.  Maybe I will be able to run a little faster by the end of the month, but it's so minimal.  More muscle mass raises resting metabolism to an extent anyway, and weight lifting is pretty intense for short bursts, like the idea behind HIIT I guess?  (Cardio HIIT isn't that effective for me).  Using additional T as a shortcut may seem stupid since I don't want to e a bodybuilder or model, but when I see no progress...no progress... no progress... for months on end... it makes it impossible to keep going. 

My T levels were normal, btw - on the higher end of the range, though that was a year ago.  Nothing drastic has changed with my weight (fat or muscle) in a year.  Just a few pounds up and down as usual. 

The larger issue is that I lost most of my interest in looking good after surgery #12 on my dick that really did nothing other than make it look more irregular, more scarred, and smaller.  It was supposed to be the final surgery to solve everything, but it was far from that.  The surgeon took so much PMMA out (in an irregular way) that it looked even more bizarre with all the swelling gone.  I saw the pics in my posting history...I forgot I put them up here, but yeah it doesn't look good.  I got a little juvederm for those gaps (not much, but it is very expensive), and it looks crazy AF when soft...but it's sort of ok hard.    1/2 the juvederm is gone now at 8 months.  Two years is way too optimistic for that stuff.


Edit - by the way, on the topic of this post - it only makes sense if the receptors are still available to receive the hormone's signal & respond to it.  I am very surprised he was 34....but maybe whatever condition he had was responsible for T still being able to work at that site (I thought it was DHT that makes the dick grow, but I think it's still open to debate).

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Part 1:  The first year - recovering 1/2" girth lost to Peyronie's Disease (Round 1 & 2 Metacrill PMMA)
Part 2:  Things starting to go bad (I had nodules removed and excisions wouldn't heal)  (After Round 3)
Part 3: Resolving Round 3 problems caused entirely by USA doctors.
Part 4: All PMMA (from all 3 rounds) hardened 6-12 months after round 3.

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There ya go

Sounds like a plan, its kinda like stretching on here. No easy fast solution, slow and steady and sensible.
The just recently started im doing is 2.5 then 3.5 and going to exede that. Sucks I wasted 4 years sitting on the fence.

Test does burn the spare tire after the 40 range when levels drop, theres a diff though between getting normal levels and loading up, throws off your other chemical balances then leads to a life time of always chasing them with diff meds.
Its all fun in your 20s and 30s it then bites you in the azz the rest of your life, I learned the hard way along with my friends.

As for your exercise, you got it. Muscle burns fat.
Mix weights and reps, I even have women do the same, pyramid effect. weights first, then end with lots of reps consisting pushups, pullups, dips
which require little or no money or equipment. 2 milk box crates, a school play ground.

Diet, im not a huge anti carb guy, just in moderation. lots of protein in food and micronized whey in vanilla so you can add what ever fruit for flavor of your preference. Also coffee sweetnd with stevia good for motivation and to speed up metabolism while 0 calories.

My andropause started in my later 30s, lucky I have stupid fast metabolism which is why I used anabolics because I couldnt gain weight.
Eating a 30 pack of white castles known as a crave case in 20 mins or 14 plates of pasta at olive garden is fun attention but lucky to gain 1lb for week
is just expensive and frustrating, now its slowed some but my stomach still stretched leaving me to eat the house down to be full.
If food made you manhood grow I would have 3 pant legs.

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