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WHAT IS
6 inches girth (=15.25 centimetres) is in the 99% percentile or more.
http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2015/03/how-big-average-penis


Porn is like extreme sport. It's like looking at the NBA to see how tall men are.
I did not find this out - but if there would be 10 000 male pornstars (my bad guess), then pornstars are 0.0000003% of the male population.
You don't see small dicks because small dicks are hardly shown in public, in porn, in amateur porn.

- Study 2001, 142 men from 18-68 age (no statistic difference really between old and young in size), measured not by themselves but from doctors (studies where people measure themselves show bigger penisses)
Penisses ranged length 10-19cm (4-7.5 inches); average of 14.5cm (5.7 inches)
Girth was  9.4cm (3.7inch) – 15.7cm (6.2inch), average 12.4cm (4.9inch)
(https://profamilia.sextra.de/pages/sextra/informatives/sex-und-mehr-/penisstudie/ )

Drawing upon the results of 12 relevant studies, the review, detailed in the British Journal of Urology (BJU) International, finds that the average erect penis is about 5.5 to 6.2 inches long and about 4.7 to 5.1 inches in circumference.(http://www.livescience.com/4489-penis-myths-debunked.html)

Greatest size thread on thundersplace: http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=33870 (overview of studies)




WHAT WOMEN WANT
- Basically 'it depends', it's different from woman to woman of course. Nobody likes 1cm or 100cm, so there is a range. The average of what women want in penis-bigness seems to be 'slightly over average' (see what average is above).


- Best study i found ever: They let 75 Women choose between 33 3d-printed penis models:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4558040/

"Women preferred a penis of slightly larger circumference and length for one-time (length = 6.4 inches/16.3 cm, circumference = 5.0 inches/12.7 cm) versus long-term (length = 6.3 inches/16.0 cm, circumference = 4.8 inches/12.2 cm) sexual partners."



- http://www.dred.com/uk/does-size-matter
Survey 970 women (50% usa, 25% great britain, 25% rest of europe; most under 45)
1100 men (same ratios)


(6 inches length = 15.25 centimetres)

"Women estimated the average penis length to be 13.8 cm, and for men, this was only 0.3 cm greater. Compare this to the results of a 2015 review of studies on penis size that included over 15,000 men from around the world: the average penis length when erect was found to be 13.12 cm – almost one whole centimeter less than the average estimate given by men in our study."


- Study http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bju.13010/full
"An important observation also comes from Lever et al. [38] who found in a large internet survey of 52 031 heterosexual men and women, 85% of women were satisfied with their partner's penis size, but only 55% of the men were satisfied with their own penis size. Thus, only 15% of women say that erect penis size is important and erect girth is generally more important than length [39]."





- Different female opinions, anecdotal
https://www.quora.com/What-penis-size-do-women-prefer
http://thoughtcatalog.com/christine-stockton/2013/08/50-women-on-does-dick-size-matter/


(came out of another thread cause i think it deserves it's own thread)


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Before:                              10.0 cm    erect girth         15.5cm erect length
After Round 1, 10ml 10%:  10.7 cm    erect girth
After Round 2, 10ml 30%:  11.3 cm    erect girth
After Round 3, 12ml 30%:~11.6 cm    erect girth
After Round 4, 11ml 30%:  12.5 cm    erect girth (1 month after, biggest part, smallest part near penis glans is only 10.5cm)
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Lexus27

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Don't know what kind of porn you watch but I've seen plenty of small dicks in porn. Both huge,big,medium and small. Also that graph is suspect. Can't compare a billion+ women to those small numbers of what's preferred.
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Okay guys here Is what i'm trying to say. You dont need a big dick to get and hold onto a dime piece. Yes of course women are looking for way more than a big dick.(most of them) All I am saying is that the women i like: 10's, big tits, big lips, fat ass, make money, alpha and need an alpha dude, you get the picture. [not meek little 6's who are looking to get married] but bold boss women looking for a MAN are  not used to seeing a 6 inch dick.... 7 to 7.5 is the average for what they are used to.  If you think that the sexy ass women of this world are getting hit on by a 5 inch dick you are just wrong. 

You cant compare the gay world and the straight world when it comes to dick size. Most guys with a small penis (in my book 6" and below) are not ambitious with getting layed. they are watching porn and playing video games or smoking pot. the majority of the dudes out there slaying it with women are not the average man. The guys that sleep with hundreds of women are the 7 to 7.5 inch dicks. Of course there are exceptions  but this is the rule. I'm sorry if you disagree.

The good, beautiful, money making, sexy women of this world who have had a healthy sexual past are used to at least a 7inch cock. To me this is indisputable.

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Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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Furethermore... from a different thread:

The girls that do like big dick and can actually take it. (most girls cannont take big dick) yes they can never get enough. But for all the guys who watch porn and think that girls can take huge cock and want it. Its bullshit. The only possision a girl can even come close to taking a 9" dick is when she is on top and even then she has to have a extra deep vagina to do so. Most girls just cant take big dick. So dont even worry about the huge cock guys. They can do more possessions than us...  but thats about it..

We are all on the right road with increasing our girth.. That is what matters most for sure. 

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Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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I dont know about the under 6 people not being ambitious.
Only HD has numbers that makes my friends and I from not feeling like the biggest male whores that we were in the 90s and 00s
As for size only one of the 5 wingmen was over that with 8in

3 pasions were eating, working out and pussy.
Didnt smoke pot or lay around

Spent some nights in chat rooms finding girls to bring back for sexscapades

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexus27
Don't know what kind of porn you watch but I've seen plenty of small dicks in porn. Both huge,big,medium and small. Also that graph is suspect. Can't compare a billion+ women to those small numbers of what's preferred.

You have seen all kinds of penisses in porn? I think you have seen the same as me: big (over average) penisses, very big penisses, and enourmous penisses.

1. Overestimation of penis size
That's the thing. That's why i think we all overestimate average penis size. The bigger the penis, the more it is shown, in locker rooms, to women, in swinger clubs, there are even professional videos and pictures made of it and sold and spread on the internet.

2. Asking 1000 women is *a lot*
They asked nearly *1000* women (mostly usa, some from UK and some from rest of europe).
1000 is a lot.
If you ask only one woman, that can vary totally wildly.
Ask 10 (eg 10 females you know), it can still vary a lot.
Ask 100, now, this is already a lot more stable. Meaning i ask 100 anonymously, you ask 100 anonymously, the results of 'average ideal penis length' will be very very simillar. That's statistics.
Now asking 1000, that's already a lot. They could ask 10 000, but there will hardly be any change in the results.
The average in 'ideal penis length' was 6.2 inches.





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Originally Posted by Bolkonsky
If you think that the sexy ass women of this world are getting hit on by a 5 inch dick you are just wrong.


3. Yes, i think so too.
I read of some very hot dudes with small peckers, but in general i also think big muscular 'alphas' have big cocks, and they are mostly the ones that sleep with Beauties.

So one would need a scientific study of asking only hot girls what their ideal penis is.

4.'Girls that can take it, love it'?
In my experience some girls go cracy when you reach deep spot culdesac in them (sometimes i reached this with my 15.5cm dick). But sometimes this was not the case, even with 8inch extension.

5. With a very big dick you are rare
Also think this is true, mat wrote this also:
Even if only a small fraction of women like very big dicks - if you have a very big dick you are in an even smaller fraction, and therefore you are more in demand. Especially now in modern times i think, where you can 'market' your special dick to eg 1 million women if you live in a supercity. So even if you are McShorty or what's his name pornstar, where perhaps perhaps even 90% don't enjoy this cracy fatness, he will never have problem not wanting women (super sizequeens) to have sex with him.
(I guess there could also be a problem - these sizequeens only love him for his dick, then he finds a girl he really likes and she just can't take his dick)

6. Dream-life pornstar?
Also:
I thought that my dick is too small since i was like 15. I really thought if this would be fixed i would have no problems. Perhaps kinda true [smile]. Anyway, this upbringing i think led to my sexual preference of fucking girls hard and me being dominant and them being submissive, doing dirty things with me. Ok, i guess this is pretty standard. Also sexual preference of small tiny sexy girls, i guess this is also universal. Now the ultimate in this fantasy is probably fucking a sexy tiny 18 year old in a dominant way and her doing dirty stuff to me. Now, for me this was basically a distant dream all my life.
Now: If i 'just' had a very very big dick, then this would be easily fulfilled. Just become a pornstar, even get money for it. Means i would do what i love, have financial freedom with it. Well. (Nowadays in the internet streaming age, pornstars don't get paid so much anymore, i know of a star that had to get a job again)
Also: of course this dream formed because i didn't have it. So if i had it, then it probably wouldn't be my dream.

Addon 5&6:
Big cock fantasy is a more common fantasy - for women and men (having one)

7. Less repeat-sex with very big girth
But:
As one famous member here wrote (don't remember name at the moment): He probably had best sex with 5.5 inches, later the girls didn't want to meet him again, he had less repeats. A la it's great for fulfilling a fantasy, but in long term women perhaps see it as not ideal.

8. Individual girls
Here in sex stories i tell story about a woman that got cracy when i fucked her, she got cross eyes and stuff. I also put extension at few times that made me like 8x6.8 (she could get about 7.6 inches in i guess) - and fucking was also great for her but not super-better. She was very surprised when she saw how big it was later.
http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/sex-stories-with-different-sizes-8530105?&trail=15


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Before:                              10.0 cm    erect girth         15.5cm erect length
After Round 1, 10ml 10%:  10.7 cm    erect girth
After Round 2, 10ml 30%:  11.3 cm    erect girth
After Round 3, 12ml 30%:~11.6 cm    erect girth
After Round 4, 11ml 30%:  12.5 cm    erect girth (1 month after, biggest part, smallest part near penis glans is only 10.5cm)
Journal: https://tinyurl.com/phallodreamjournal
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Its not always how deep you fish, its how you wggle your worm.

be a good lover and you have to be able to rub the walls.

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Agreed
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Dream i think you should be a Mod here..

You are spot on. 

Go ask 1000 fine ass 34dd size 2 and under with a nice round ass what the average dick size is.. What is their ideal penis. I promise their ideal penis and even average penis will, on average, be longer and thicker than than the 1000 random "average" women they pull for the poll..

My point is that we here on this site are the type of men who are willing to go the extra mile for what we want. Most here on on Test and other derivatives of testosterone. that already should say what we are willing to do to put ourselves ahead. We are willing to fly all over the world to get shit injected into our dicks. 

Lets not lie to ourselves and think that we are competing against 5" or even 6" dick dudes.. It doesnt mean we suck or anything. We all need to become better men in every way possible to make up for any lacking equipment or shortcomings we may have. Its not the end all or be all. I hope i didnt make it seem like that. 




__________________
Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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I agree somewhat.  It's the 20/80 rule.  Where the top 20 percent of guys bang 80% of the women.  The rest of the 'average' 80% of guys are fighting for the scraps.  That last 20% of women are not even wanted by the bigger, more handsome, taller, and probably larger penis having top 20% of men.  Thus the larger size is what most women see until they settle down with a provider.  I'd say 6.5-7.5 is what they think is average.  5.5 -6.5 small to average.  And 7.5 - 9 + large to huge.  
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I've noticed more an more 'red pilled' concepts mentioned online in many idfferent sites. It's becoing more frequent.

I found the sub last year. Most of it is true. Depressing and bitter though it is. I think most of us know this but engage in denial.

It's changed my life for the better. It's hard to admit to painful truths but facing reality is how you deal with it.

If nothing else it got me back in the gym. It's amazing how much better peole treat you when you have some muscle (ultimately the presumption you could hurt them if they hurt you) I had forgotten what it was like.

It still depresses me though that human nature is like this though.
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I think some of you guys spend way too much time focused on trivial things. The so called 80/20 rule.I am not hung like a horse 6.25 x 5.85. I have layed pipe my whole life. Physically im 5'8" and 185 to 205 my whole adult life.

Women will fuck guys. They like sex just as much as we do.

When you are talking to them they have no clue what your packing between your legs. They like confident guys, maybe even borderline cocky. A good sense of humor, ability to hold an intelligent conversation, things like this make her wonder and make her mind drift.

Guys swinging 8 inches are not shy and lack confidence most of the time. They are the life of the party with the ladies before they know what he is packing.

My brother always asked me how I have slayed the sheer numbers I did. He is a 8" guy that is that wall flower in the corner. Shy, reclusive, tall lanky athletic body. Maybe 15 girls his whole life.

Hell one night we were drinking and his ex girlfriend looked at me and straight out asked me why I had so many girls coming over to my house all the time. I straight out answered her with this, have you ever been licked and fucked for hours till you couldnt take it any longer?

She asked if I was hung like my brother cause he is huge but doesnt know how to use his "gift from god" I said no I'm not that big but I absolutely know how to use what I've been given. Lets just say we were fuck buddies for a few years.

I still see her a few times a year and she cups my dick as I pinch her nipple. Thats how we hug so to speak. She still to this day asks when im leaving my wife so we can fuck again.....

Confidence guys,

Learn to use what you got, use it well, learn to love eating pussy, most of all be a "conversationally" nice guy.

Like Heidi said too bad he doesnt know how to use it.........
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An absolute tiny tiny percentage of guys under go PE surgery/procedures. It is even a tiny fraction compared with the amount of guys that even get hair transplants. Point I am making here is that guys that under go these procedure, like the guys on here, will generally have a deluded sense of how important a big dick is in reality. Probably a big reason why they are under taking a PE procedure.

Saying that only hot women get banged by guys that are at least 7 inches is complete sh##e and is the sign of a guy who is deluded regarding penis size importance.

A guy does not need to have a big dick to be confidant. Do you really think that a good looking guy with an average size dick can't be confidant and won't chat up a hot girl?


Bolkonsky you are VERY deluded in thinking only hot girls see big dicks.


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Southdub You are very deluded in thinking i said that only hot girls see big dicks..
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Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolkonsky
If you think that the sexy ass women of this world are getting hit on by a 5 inch dick you are just wrong.


Really Bolkonsky, so how are readers suppose to interpret the above quote.
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