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KFH
I'm not sure if this might be it mexmuscle, but regardless it's still very interesting -
 ericf posted this in another thread:

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Guys, here is the reason why im asking apparently the bloke below had fundi and suspensory cut, this is what i found on andropenisforum ( i dont know if its ok to post links to other pe sites just google this ):
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In the 5th World Congress of Penile Enhancement, sponsored by the American Academy of Phalloplasty Surgeons, held in Bal Harbour, Florida, USA, the Brazilian doctor Bayard Ollé Fischer Santos presented a fully documented case on pictures from the beginning to the end of the treatment, which basically consisted of the same technique used by the previous record-holder, in which the patient began with 11cm and reached 27 cm, with a gain of 16 cm. The summary recorded in the congress annals defining the entire experiments is as follows:

"Unprecedented case report: Increase of 16 cm in penis length by means of surgery and physiotherapy".

This work introduces a case of length increase from 11 cm to 27 cm. Patient JCV, 32, Caucasian, was seen on 10/11/94 alleging dissatisfaction with his penis size, the dimension of which were 11cm long and 10.5cm of perimeter during erection.

He had prostectomy on 02/20/95. After healing, he used traction by gravitational force with PLD device until 04/30/95 when he was submitted to a severance of suspensory and fundiform ligaments of the penis and liposculpture. After healing he resumed use of PLD. On 04/27/97 he underwent new surgery to correct penis asymmetry as a result of fat reabsorption and removal of some lipid cysts. After healing, he started using dynamometric traction with the "Jes Extender®" device.

During the year of '97 he made two more adjustments in the force to be used on the device, which was between 900-1000 grams. He returned on 03/28/2000, as he had reached the maximum stretching length of the device (27cm), which was even slack now, and requested another 5-cm stretching bar. He reported that he had worn the "Jes Extender®" device in the last three months for more than 12 hours a day with a traction between 900-1000 grams and applied a vial of Pregnyl® (5000 UI Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) every 15 days. He reports that his member reached 27cm in length during erection and that he has been having busy sexual activity and good quality erections. We know that a flaccid penis, when stretched, reaches the erection length, which is verified on the use of the device by the patient with its maximum stretch, which is 27 cm.

The importance of this record is not only associated to this patient's amazing penis enlargement, which was even beyond the medical opinion that considered the treatment successful when the penis reached 16 cm in length, but also to attest that a penis can be really enlarged, with no risk to its functions, in spite of many doctors' insistence that penis enlargement is impossible.

This notable fact could not go unnoticed by the international press. The newspaper "Le Monde", of Paris, France, on the 25th of January 2001, reported this record, which was considered for registration in the Guinness Book. At the time the record registration was waiting for the research department to sanction the publication. The registration of this record in the Guinness book was subsequently approved, attesting to its scientific credibility and acknowledging it as the case of greatest penis enlargement in a single patient.

Source: Andrology Clinic of Dr. Bayard Ollé Fischer Santos
Author of the book "A Medida do Homem" (The Measure of Man)


My Lengthening Surgery (lig cut) Report & Results
My Extender Report and Log
12/17/11 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
05/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
29/01/15 - 7" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG 
31/05/15 - 7.25" BPEL x 5.6" MSEG

Goal: 8" BPEL x 5.75" MSEG
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Mustang2020
One would think that this could have been repeated by another patient since that report was made public. Can it be that this is an isolated case? Very strange that it has not been done since 2001!
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KFH
Indeed thats what I thought mustang. I imagine they've tried the same procedure on someone else or multiple patients, but I'm not suprised if they're reluctant to publish the results of them, I predict they won't be no where near as impressive as this case.
My Lengthening Surgery (lig cut) Report & Results
My Extender Report and Log
12/17/11 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
05/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
29/01/15 - 7" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG 
31/05/15 - 7.25" BPEL x 5.6" MSEG

Goal: 8" BPEL x 5.75" MSEG
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hoddle10

Miro Djordevic showed me a photo of a penis that the surgeon cut the suspensory and fundiform ligs. It pointed downwards and couldn't be inserted for sex without the guy holding it. It also made positions such as girl on top impossible. The ligs are there for a reason. Only the superficial ligs can be released safely.

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Mexmuscle

Yes, that is the case I was referring to. Thanks, KFH. Evidently, the patient was highly motivated.  I wonder whether that prostectomy had anything to do with it in one way or another, maybe the prostate isse had the effect of shortening it but it went back to normal after the isssue was taken care of? 

Started PE mid 2003: 5.5 EL x 4.5 EG.

Non-picture proven, currently (December 2011) at 7.5 BPEL x 5 EG;
Flaccid Bone-Pressed Stretched Length 8.0 inch. Dont ask me about my 'routine' please because dont have much to add to what is already known. Just be persistent.
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KFH
So suspensory ligaments aren't really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?
My Lengthening Surgery (lig cut) Report & Results
My Extender Report and Log
12/17/11 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
05/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
29/01/15 - 7" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG 
31/05/15 - 7.25" BPEL x 5.6" MSEG

Goal: 8" BPEL x 5.75" MSEG
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hoddle10

KFH wrote:
So suspensory ligaments aren't really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?

Basically the ligs hold the penis in position. Without the support of ligaments the penis will just be loose and when erect will point downwards. The suspensory ligs are those at the front, so by releasing just them, the penis should still be pretty well supported. However this isn't always the case. I know of a couple of guys at Thundersplace who have had their suspensory ligaments cut, who now want them reattched as the penis feels loose at the base and makes penetration in certain positions difficult.

In this thread members of thunderplace discuss getting the ligs reattached:

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98113&page=1&pp=15


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BIG MEAT
hoddle10 wrote:

Miro Djordevic showed me a photo of a penis that the surgeon cut the suspensory and fundiform ligs. It pointed downwards and couldn't be inserted for sex without the guy holding it. It also made positions such as girl on top impossible. The ligs are there for a reason. Only the superficial ligs can be released safely.

How much size did Miro Djordevic gain?
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Mexmuscle

Djorjevic did not gain, he was the surgeon performing the operation or simply just showing what went on with a guy who had his ligs cut.



Started PE mid 2003: 5.5 EL x 4.5 EG.

Non-picture proven, currently (December 2011) at 7.5 BPEL x 5 EG;
Flaccid Bone-Pressed Stretched Length 8.0 inch. Dont ask me about my 'routine' please because dont have much to add to what is already known. Just be persistent.
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hoddle10

Mexmuscle is right, Miro was going to perform corrective surgery on the guy, so he could regain stability when erect.

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BIG MEAT

Thanks, you two for the clarification, I misread.

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KFH
hoddle10 wrote:

KFH wrote:
So suspensory ligaments aren't really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?

Basically the ligs hold the penis in position. Without the support of ligaments the penis will just be loose and when erect will point downwards. The suspensory ligs are those at the front, so by releasing just them, the penis should still be pretty well supported. However this isn't always the case. I know of a couple of guys at Thundersplace who have had their suspensory ligaments cut, who now want them reattched as the penis feels loose at the base and makes penetration in certain positions difficult.

In this thread members of thunderplace discuss getting the ligs reattached:

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98113&page=1&pp=15




That's quite interesting. So for example, a patient has his suspensory ligaments cut and then stretches for 6-12 months and gains lets say, an inch in erect length.
If he has his suspensory ligaments reattached,  could they attach the ligaments to a part of the penis that was further inside the body than before the lig cut?

Basically, do you think the patient would be able to keep his gains from stretching after the lig cut if he had his suspensory ligaments reattached?
My Lengthening Surgery (lig cut) Report & Results
My Extender Report and Log
12/17/11 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
05/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG
29/01/15 - 7" BPEL x 5.5" MSEG 
31/05/15 - 7.25" BPEL x 5.6" MSEG

Goal: 8" BPEL x 5.75" MSEG
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hoddle10
KFH wrote:
hoddle10 wrote:

KFH wrote:
So suspensory ligaments aren't really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?

Basically the ligs hold the penis in position. Without the support of ligaments the penis will just be loose and when erect will point downwards. The suspensory ligs are those at the front, so by releasing just them, the penis should still be pretty well supported. However this isn't always the case. I know of a couple of guys at Thundersplace who have had their suspensory ligaments cut, who now want them reattched as the penis feels loose at the base and makes penetration in certain positions difficult.

In this thread members of thunderplace discuss getting the ligs reattached:

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98113&page=1&pp=15




That's quite interesting. So for example, a patient has his suspensory ligaments cut and then stretches for 6-12 months and gains lets say, an inch in erect length.
If he has his suspensory ligaments reattached,  could they attach the ligaments to a part of the penis that was further inside the body than before the lig cut?

Basically, do you think the patient would be able to keep his gains from stretching after the lig cut if he had his suspensory ligaments reattached?


According to Sava Perovic, the patient would lose his gains.  Dr Perovic didn't claim patients would gain erect length though, so he was probably talking about losing flaccid gains. I don't think erect gains come from pulling the penis further out, so personally I don't think this would happen. Re-attaching the ligs is a tricky surgery and I don't think it has a high success rate.
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Miracle8x7
As I've stated in previous posts, before dying from cancer, I met with Professor Doctor Sava Perovic in Serbia. He was an excellent peyronie's surgeon and I would have chosen him over Egydio based on the graft material he uses (InteXen LP) as it is closer in physiology to a natural tunic. InteXen LP is still not approved for use in Brazil. Both Egydio and Perovic possess the experience and skill to carryout such a delicate procedure. He was a great man and he recommended against ligamentolysis for erect gains even when combined with postoperative traction. Severing of the suspensory and fundiform ligaments is a bad idea in my opinion. Of course, so is jelqing, hanging, clamping, etc. When I queried Perovic, Egydio and Tom Lue concerning manual PE, they were unanimous on their viewpoint. "Don't do it" they stated emphatically. They are all masters of urology and know more than anyone on Thunder's, Matters of Size, etc. While it may work for some, I prefer to listen to the experts. Do so at your own risk.
Never gonna retire from PE! What? You gotta problem with dat?

Progress Report
http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Miracle8x7s-PMMA-Progress-Report-5391236
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Mexmuscle

I cannot speak for those doctors, but I think their intention was to make patients avoid anything that altered the penis too fast, since it is not something you can 'fix' quickly if damaged.  If done correctly and over a longer time, there is not anything to be afraid of.  Stretchers, for example, work very slowly, and gains are permanent. 

Started PE mid 2003: 5.5 EL x 4.5 EG.

Non-picture proven, currently (December 2011) at 7.5 BPEL x 5 EG;
Flaccid Bone-Pressed Stretched Length 8.0 inch. Dont ask me about my 'routine' please because dont have much to add to what is already known. Just be persistent.
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