So I finally pulled the trigger after taking advice from experienced members here and Dr Oates. I did it in a bit of silence as honestly I'm great at expecting people to share their experience but felt really awkward about putting this level of personal detail on a public forum, I wish it was still private to be honest but felt a real hypocrite for not sharing my experience so here it is a few days late but better late than never I hope.
As I was drawn to Phalloboards initially by a detailed log explaining the process of PMMA, the experience etc down to a tee, I figured I would try and be as detailed as possible and hopefully it will help some folks who were in my position. I’ve been thinking on/off about this for many years despite already being over “average”. I researched over the years all the various options like full surgery, fat grafts, fat stuffing etc and somehow found Phalloboards which finally seemed like a place without the bullshit and fake reviews and crap and never ever went to another site again. Phalloboards really turned me onto PMMA as the light at the end of the tunnel.
I very nearly went the PMMA route but the negatives kept weighing in my mind.I would read glowing reviews and be so close , so many times but then always a negative review / disaster would stop me from pulling the trigger.
I contacted both Dr C and Dr N about PMMA. Dr N would be easier for me distance wise but time in between communications took so long or just didn’t happen so I lacked confidence in her.
Then Dr Oates came on the board and I finally thought here’s somebody I feel is entirely credible, trustworthy and importantly contactable, so I started following his thread.He then became a sponsor and that gave me the confidence to know the phalloboards guys clearly trusted him and so I became interested in HA that route.
I really wanted to visit Dr Oates but the 4 days of travelling and absurd costs for travelling and hotels just made it unrealistic financially. I eventually found Androfill on line searching for HA in the UK, it hadn’t even occurred to me it was available in the UK , I was never able to find a PMMA guy in the UK and hadn’t had the sense to search for HA in the UK. Initially was put off with Androfill as there had been a big disagreement with them on here and a thread really went south over issues over cannula versus injection and then about somebody with the same IP creating a review. I didn’t entirely get the gist but I was directed to the thread by a concerned member after I posted a thread asking if anybody had used them. That sort of put me off for a while but they ticked so many boxes in terms of the fact their Doctor Gary Horn was so experienced in penile work and they were so close etc, that I dropped them a line..
I ended up getting a reply within minutes and it was very detailed and professional, it assured me somewhat. Over the next week or so I probably emailed them ten times more with various questions I wanted to know about after asking Dr Oates some questions in his thread and they were rapid in replying and always really helpful, they were the first company in this industry who seemed actually contactable and useful that I had been in contact with. Eventually I gave them a call and their guy Francis, was really professional, gave me his mobile number, texted me back at absurd times of night with answers. I did also contact Moorgate another one advertising HA in the UK but I watched a video of there’s on Youtube and it put me entirely off with it’s cheesy bullshit and scaremongering and their surgeon was associated with a really annoying BBC documentary and it put me off entirely.
So I finally took the plunge booked in and saw Dr Horn on Saturday in a swish clinic in Harley street. I googled Horn a lot , the guys a penile surgeon with a lot of experience and no negative reviews online which helped my final decision. I did at one point feel I wanted to make a joke about a guy doing penis work being called Dr Horn but the dude has a needle above my penis and I thought twice about it. I wouldn’t say he’s the most friendly guy in the world, I don’t mean to say he’s a misery, he’s not, he smiles and answers any questions but he’s not the guy you meet in the pub for a pint, but then perhaps after the 10,0000 guy asking you the same shit you lose the will to live.
The surgery is what you would expect in Harley street and the procedure is like this. They take you into the back waiting room , the front waiting room is full of rich looking women, presumably getting tit jobs? Then Francis (Dr Horns right hand man) sees you and you then see Dr Horn. He measures you flaccid, which seemed pointless to me, not sure why he does that, especially as I explained my flaccid can range so absurdly in size its crazy. I presumed you would get an anaesthetic injection but you don’t, they give you some cream to rub on your dick in the toilet, not the most glamorous experience, especially when you walk out and there’s another guy clutching the same tub of cream – AWKWARD!
Anyway you rub the cream on to desensitize yourself , then let it soak in, leave a couple of minutes then rub the rest in, use the whole tube and a big tip, do NOT go back into the office for at least 5-10 more minutes, I went straight in and the first couple of needle pricks hurt a bit.
I didn’t remember about cannula versus needle issue when I was on the operating table and so just went with the needle, it wasn’t until It was over I even remembered that some advice I had was to go cannula but if you want to they do cannular about 20% of the time apparently for whoever asks for it. Oh and they don't inject with your dick erect, which concerned me a bit as it seemed it would be much easier to get it right across the length but Dr HOrn was right, it seems to make no difference as my job is basically perfect although I did have a very small amount (more on that in a bit)
I choose to go Juverderm Voluma, Dr Oates uses that and they offer that and a cheaper filler that Dr Horn says lasts about 1 year. It was a no brainer for me to use the more expensive but you can do either and he gives you that choice at the time.
The process takes about 10 minutes I guess, I did actually ask to take a look at the boxes to check it was Juverderm, he didn’t take offense so I am guessing guys from Phalloboards have been to him already. They do about 2 of these procedures a day which seemed about right , although it seemed a bit heavy on Saturday, there was 2+ me alone in the time I was there, I did get there early though.
After they give you some supporting underwear and Francis gives you a sheet of do and do nots, about post care and just chats through it with you. Basically their rules are, NO sex at all for 10 days, try and get erect morning and night and massage the lumps, no jogging etc for a few days.
I got home fine, driving was fine, zero issues , zero pain. By the time I got home it had swollen up a bit, I will say it was amazing swollen, If a bit lumpy, but it’s very weird looking at something you’ve seen for so long , suddenly be so much bigger. In truth I wish it didn’t swell up, it’s been pretty depressing the last few days see it get smaller and smaller but it seems to now have stabilized, same measurements 24 hours ago until now.
I started 6.25 EL and 5.25 EG at base. I had 6ml, which is a very conservative amount but I was just flat out nervous about the whole thing and that was the first cheap price point on qty. I gained about .25” maybe a tiny bit more but certainly no more than that erect, but perhaps a little more than that flaccid it seems to me. I advise measuring really accurately before going, REALLY accurately, because you’re going to be looking at your dick a lot and really knowing where you started from is VITAL or you’ll go mad with the swelling going down etc. It’s quite hard to remember what it looked like before and I went through a bit of a panic stage thinking it had leaked out an insertion point and stupid shit like that but it was just swelling going down and now it’s stabilized it’s pretty more tame stress wise. I’m nearing the end of day 4 now and I am hoping all the swelling is gone and what’s here is what’s to stay for the next 18 months or so.
I had some bumps and stuff on Sunday morning and was a little alarmed but not to badly as Francis and Dr Horn both said this can happen. I got erect and just did what Franics said which is sort of to squeeze it between your fingers. HA is really pliable the first couple of days, you can almost mould it. One thing I couldn’t do though was push it a lot down the shaft and I’ve got a bit of an area 1/3 up from the base on the right that is going to need more when I go back for a bigger amount to even it up perfect.
Apart from that I have zero bumps, ridges, nada. For people wondering what HA feels like, I saw somebody say it doesn’t feel any different but it does to me. Not in a bad way, but just different, not noticeable I think, except to you as you know how your own dick feels and I’m already forgetting how it did feel and this is becoming the norm but yeah slightly different but no way would a woman know, it still feels entirely normal but also bare in mind I'm only on day 4 and so this could be a premature feedback as it hasn't even fully hardened yet. I will report back as the days go on.
My flaccid has improved in the sense it’s heavier so hangs a little lower and it’s thicker from the 6ml which is a good sign as I’m going for 10 ml the next time in a few weeks. I would say actually the flacid change is more noticeable to me than the erect although erect is certainly noticeable I do wish it was like it was a few hours after I had the injections and the next morning it looked huge to me.
For people thinking about telling or not telling their partners, I was going to not tell her and just put off having sex for a bit (tired etc) but then figured what the hell and told her, she wasn’t hugely impressed with me and said I was big enough and it was a zero issue which I think in truth it is for most women, but she’s fine with it now and I think once I get the extra 10ml in , it will be more pleasing for her sometimes once she’s really wet. I mainly did this for me to be honest.
I know people want to see photos, I do have a photo on day 2 and I may post it, I absolutely hate the thought of posting pictures of my dick on the internet but I do really appreciate all those who came before me to give me the idea of what was possible so I may go back on that if there’s enough interest but I will say, it just looks like a dick, there’s nothing there that looks unlike a dick so I’m not sure it’s hugely beneficial to see and as I only had 6ml , it’s not hugely impressive , I’ll def take a pic with the next 10 ml in once it’s stabilized and you can compare it to the 6 ml version as I didn’t take any erect before I’m afraid.
Other than that, I think that’s about all I can bring to the table but happy to answer any questions that I’ve missed out.
I’ll just leave with a thanks to Phalloboards, especially to some of the old members who’ve helped me with PM’s, helped me with their experiences, it was invaluable, helped me with their logs and advice etc.I’m finally on the way and hopefully within a month or so will be where I want to be which is about 5.75 EG.