TLDR: I’m having 10mL of generic HA at Androfill in 2 weeks. Will report with before & after pics.
This is my first post. I have been lurking on this forum for quite a while now and finally taking the plunge.
I will first be writing some info about about myself, then how I came to this decision of HA.
BPEL: ~6in ~15.5cm
Mid EG: 4.7in 12cm
Currently In my 20’s.
Being adolescent and having my first sexual encounters, I never really felt like size was a problem. I had my first sex with my high-school girlfriend which was amazing (teenage love and all...), so I’m grateful and I feel lucky for that. Later on, partners seemed always satisfied and chemistry seemed to be the most important factor.
I must say I started watching porn at a young age, and it quickly became an addiction. Unfortunately I wasn’t aware of it until a few years ago (It’s been now more than 2 years I have abstained from it, which definitely helped. But i feel this is an addiction i would never get rid of.)
Anyway, a few years down the road, I met my high-school sweetheart again and although the chemistry was there, sex was very different. Pretty bad even, so much that we stopped after a few minutes. Actually for me it was good ! But clearly, she was not feeling much down there... I remember us staring at the ceiling, wondering what went wrong. I jokingly said that she maybe got used to bigger guys at uni before us meeting again. She remained silent.
Turned out the guys she had been with in between were many (which is by no means pejorative, good for her!), and penis size was definitely an important factor. I know this because we kept in touch for a while, weirdly became friends, and we openly talked about relationships and sex.
Anyway, I guess that was the turning point for me, when I started to become self conscious about my size.
From that moment on, sex was different for me. I had around 50 partners, mostly good experiences but my size was on my mind during all of these encounters.
I made up for it by trying to be better in bed. Although sometimes I was thinking about so much that it made me go soft, which just made the sex bad.
This is also the moment when I started doing PE, trying all possible techniques, but never had gains, even the newbie ones (and if i did they were temporary).
In the end, I was the one mostly bothered by my size. I often felt like I was floating in partners if they were very aroused and “relaxed”.
Or whenever they don’t explicitly show me that they’re enjoying (which I guess is a normal thing when you have sex, there are high and low moments right ?) I start to wonder : “is it because of the size? Does she feel like it’s not enough?”
Anyhow. I’m in a long term relationship now, and she’s amazing, the relationship is great.
Plus I got her to really enjoy anal which I have a huge thing for (hello porn addiction).
But still, I do feel like bigger would be better, and she said that she definitely wouldn’t mind. (Although she think girth might not the best for anal)
So, finally, after having no success with pe during 5 years (maybe hardcore dedication would have led to some minimal gains, but the cost of time and energy spent doing this isn’t worth it, I need to develop my career right now), I finally considered surgery.
I must say, this forum has been very helpful, and I would like to thank everyone who contributed, as well as the creators / maintainer with whom the great ressource wouldn’t exist.
So, quick summary of what I have found reading this forum:
There are 3 really viable options:
At first, it seemed like the way to go. I live in europe so Dr.N is the only option as the travel costs + time for Dr.C is just too much for me (there was supposedly an Italian doctor as well, but unsure if he was really using pmma and seemed overall sketchy).
From what I’ve seen, the problem with Pmma are :
- Complications are not so uncommon
- Esthetic result aren’t really that great ( I have found that a lot of Dr.N patients rarely had a uniform result, mostly due to the fact that she doesn’t inject near the base. Some guys might be ok with it though)
- accordion effect. I’m uncut and have pretty loose skin, so it seems I am almost guaranteed to have that.
- Permanent : that’s an obvious one. Didn’t seem to bother me at first but the closer I was leaning towards a decision and the more the “permanent damage if something goes wrong” idea sank in.
- Less likely to have complications, and even if that’s the case, can easily be reversed
- Temporary, the price to pay for a safer solution.
- Results described as too soft by many users (“padded dick”)
- accordion effect also present -> some users seem to have it, others not.
I have huge hopes for this one. Unfortunately there isn’t a lot of reported cases yet, but I believe it might be the best long term solution.
Overall, HA seems like the best option for me right now, as it allows me to ”try it”, know how it feels and above all isn’t permanent if I regret it. Best case scenario, it’s great, and I top up every 6 months or so, like going to the dentist. It’s definitely a cost, but seeing that this thing takes so much time, energy and space in my head, making me loose productivity, it’s actually an investment if I can get rid of this obsession. (Does it ever disappear though ? I don’t know, I guess we’ll see)
As I said, I live in Europe so Androfill or Moorgate seems the way to go (there is this french guy in Antibes, but sketchy as well, he’s appearently not using good quality HA, and told one of his french patients that he mixes it with water. As reported on doctissimo by that patient. I guess it’s a way for him to make customers come back faster.)
I have contacted Francis at Androfill via email, and I booked for the 20th of May (less than two weeks).
As the price difference is quite important between the generic filler and Voluma (2300eur vs 3100eur for 10mL), I asked if there were any difference (such as firmness) besides that fact last voluma should last longer. He told me firmness is the same and clients haven’t reported any difference. He also told me the generic filler used is Pluryal volume by MD Skin.
After a quick search on the internet, it seems I can find 2mL of Pluryal for 61 euros. ( https://skin-heal.com/product/pluryal-volume-2x1ml/ )
So now I’m wondering , 30euros per mL , that’s like 300 euros for HA for 10mL !
So the price is indeed justified for Voluma (as it’s something like 250 eur / mL), but definitely not for the generic filler !
I plan on calling him tomorrow to ask him about this. I wonder if I can bring my own Pluryal then !
I am also worried about the accordion effect, as it seems it’s definitely something that could happen. I wonder if there’s a way to tell the Dr.Horn to avoid this as much as possible (like not injecting near the glans, or deeper, or the kind of canula used ?)
What do you guys think ? Am I guaranteed to have the accordion effect ?
I will report the procedure and post before & after pics.