Bolkonsky
Hi guys, bolkonsky here from pegym a few years back. some may remember.. I'll try and make this short

My story:

About 6 years ago i started off with a very small dong 6"bpel by just under 5" MEG. I joined PeGym, where i eventually got kicked out for not being a good ol'boy, and learned about manual PE and its limitations; along with self-righteous moderators on a penis website. 

I started hanging alot (with BIB) and got to 7.75" bpel.. i was kicking ass, but i really dedicated a prodigious amount of time and effort to the endeavor. Then i went to prison for a year, (another story) where i tried to continue to PE when i wasn't busy fighting. Didnt work too well. 3 years after my 7.75bpel i'm now at 7" bpel, and with 100% eq i'll max at 7.25"bpel.

with pumping and ULI's and dry jelqing i got my girth up to 5.25" girth (cold) at the top of my dick and 6+" on the bottom half. Hanging does wonders for the base girth. At the base i'm about 6.75" but most dont believe that. 


Prison Beading:

When i was in prison, the gang i was affiliated with all had penis implants made from whittled toothbushes... yes this is 100% true. They are good dudes just not super bright. Stick with me here. I watched about 15 guys get this done.  Of course no pain killers. Some guys about passed out. You would get a toothbrush, whittle the plastic part to whatever shape you wanted; one dude made a long one with a bunch of speed bumps, another craftier fellow made one with skull and bones, some hearts.. you get the picture. So I ended up helping with the procedure on a few guys. One dude would stretch the dick out(me), two dudes would hold the guy down and put a rag in the poor fucks mouth, then 'the surgeon' with a razor blade made the incision and shank out (hallow out) the skin from the meat on the penis with a long metal tube. This was grousome and sometimes took 10 minutes to fully separate enough skin., then slide whatever the fuck the dude made into the dick and sow them back up with string pulled from the boxers. Then rinse off the shank and the next guy would sit on down... crazy! but it was fun watching these bozo's do this shit. And in a non homo way got a good up close look at a bunch of different dongs. No i didnt get it done.. only one that i know of got infected. 

So this got me thinking why not just do this with silicone like fake boobs. And it lead me to phalloplasty! to you dudes!

HERE IS MY PLAN FOR 8'' x 6.5'' 
plz input your knowledge.

First get my lig cut. Hang for a year. Even possibly do some fulcrum hanging. Mind you i'm a very experienced hanger. Dont do this shit unless you know what you are doing.  And then once i'm 8" and feeling good about it go get PMMA. Then continue doing maintenance hanging for the rest of my life, because i know the dick can and does shrink over time.

I've gotten alot of stories and people telling me not to get my lig cut. I'm still out to lunch on this issue. Please help me here guys. I'll do whatever the majority of you Pro's say is the right thing to do.  I think maybe the reason why people shrink after they get their ligs cut is because they just dont hang. I'm obviously not that guy. I plan on stretching and hanging most days until i'm dead. 

my current routine: 
I'm already hanging almost everyday as of right now. I'm just doing it to keep things limber. I warm my dick up and put my bib on (5 min) then go cook breakfast with 20lbs hanging between my legs. Then shower where i do 5 min jelq. My dick hangs nice all day. And i dont even use an ADS. 

I've had a 7.75" dick and the difference .75" make is night and fucking day. I want it back. I just dont have the time to hang 6 hours a day like i used to. So i'm thinking if i get my lig cut. And hang in the morning for an hour and use an ADS then i might be able to get to a solid 8" within a year.

PMMA questions. plz plz help and answer if you know

Can i get it in my Gland to make my gland bigger?

Can i hang after it solidifies?
  • i'd like to use the bib but i'm not sure if it would crush and move the stuff around.

Can i Jelq after everything heals?
  • Jelqing has been my go to for EQ (erection quality)
  • I also really like to dry jelq.

Can I do ULI's after everything heals?

Can I pump after everything heals?
  • I also like to use this as a workout for kegals and it promotes good EQ for me. 

I'm thinking about getting the TLC ventless tugger to use as an ADS to help make extra room in the dick for PMMA.. It pulls on the skin to help stretch it. Any thoughts on that? I dont know if that even makes sense. 


I got a quote on the lig cutting for 4500$ if that means anything to anyone.

If i'm forgetting anything plz ask or input.. Anything helps guys. Everything i've read from everyone here is awesome. You all seem like good dudes.

Thanks so much

Bolkonsky





Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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briceb
No, you cannot use pmma for glans enlargement.  Wish I could tell you otherwise.
A clear conscience is the sign of a bad memory.
CURRENT: EL 8"  EG 7" midshaft  FL 7-7.5"  FG 6.25-6.5"
GOALS: EL 9"  EG 7"  FL 8"+  FG 6.5"
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Hunkydory01
Yes on the Uli's and I would go to something like the Grip which just grabs the head - it is a vac system and it can hold a lot of weight. They have these super thick rubbers they sell - I would put that on first and then use it - it will keep your head from getting blisters.

If you do get a lig cut do not get the YV or VY not sure which it is called but get the kind that does the small horizontal in your pubic area. YV leaves huge scars. Not sure where you live but check out Dr. REED in Bal Harbor FL - he did mine and it worked in terms of no side effects and no noticeable scars and he is not expensive. All this is if you are set on doing it, you may be disappointed as a lot of guys are.

Yes on jelqing too - it actually helps the outcome.

I tried pumping twice - meaning more than 2x's but after each round for a few weeks. It had the effect of making the high spots higher and the effect was not great on me so I don't do it - some guys on here probably do.
 
The Grip System by the way, is for a more serious weight the TLC or the ESL are good but won't give you the ability to hang heavier if that is important to you.


Great story by the way!
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Bolkonsky
briceb my heart is broken.. Is there any phallo enhancement procedure to enhance the size of the gland?



centurion - I'm glad i can uli and jelq after pmma.. I think someone on here was saying that it was a bad idea.  i would hate for it to get all clumped up or something.

DOES THE PMMA MOVE AROUND AFTER IT SOLIDIFIES?

did your lig cut do anything positive? are you glad you did it? what would you recommend for me?

a big part of me just wants to go get pmma done and bypass lig cutting so i can be 6" girth.


Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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Penis-Hanger
HI like my name says Im was also hanging like crazy for 3 years went from ~15 cm to 21cm.
However I also had the same experience with base girth from 13cm to 16.5cm at the base, hanging is very effective but you need to be disciplined like a bodybuilder on the way to his title.

I was also planning the same route as you but I believe that if you follow your ligamentum with the hands when you are erect there isnt much more length to get.
The doctor said I should rather do hanging some more years than do the lig surgery. However he would recommend the hanger to his customers after the lig surgery.

Now Im looking also forward to pmma I would like to have a girth of 17 to 17.5cm but still waiting for more experiences with pmma, the swelling stuff is the most annoying thing.
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CPW
"a big part of me just wants to go get pmma done and bypass lig cutting so i can be 6" girth."

Good idea


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Bolkonsky
as long as i can hang after i get pmma, and i feel like i can at minimum maintain a 7.25" bpel i would be happy.. 

I like to hang with around 20 lbs. Does anyone see a problem with that post pmma?
Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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Hunkydory01
Definitely, bypass the lig cut - jelqing is just sort of intense massage, I don't see how it would do anything but help - turtling has the worst effect on outcome and jelqing is the opposite of that, plus it is massage. 

It does not move around - at least mine does not - it is not a liquid once it sets, its collagen. I can't feel it in me - what is original and what is from PMMA.

I went into the lig cut blind. I was much younger (21 years ago) and there were no such things as PB sites. I went down to FL for a dermal fat graft and just before the surgery he told me about the lig cut for $1,500 more and I said sure why not - I never had an issue about my length but had a really casual attitude about it. The nurse said to me you really don't need it but it was a well, I'm here let's do it what can go wrong decision. I could have really fucked myself with that attitude.

Technically it came out great in the sense that I have no scars, no length reduction that some people get, I did gain flaccid length but it really does nothing for erect length. To have a meaningful effect on your erect length you would need to have a few extra inches of dick inside you that is suddenly released but one one does. The most it does is make your flaccid closer to your erect length when the temp is warm. It will still turtle somewhat. But rigorous hanging does the same thing in terms of a longer flaccid. It is a big waste of money. I always tell guy's hang for a year or two and see if have success. If you do keep it up and if you don't a lig. cut wasn't going to work for you anyway. Any doctor that tells you it increases erect length is not telling you the truth and knows it, so I'd stay away from them. I saw one doctor say on their site recently that it helps with flaccid length and may lead to a .5" erect length with hanging. Assuming that you have no bad outcomes, that is actually the most you can hope for. Not worth a surgery.

Hanging works - you just need to put the time in IMO. It worked for me but when I did it I really did it obsessively. So my advice is don't do it - hang and do the PMMA if that is where you want to go.
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Mustang2020
Yeah, like I said before, no lig cut, save your money for PMMA or a non permanent filler!

Also, do a lot of reading on this site, almost all of your questions are answered here, just put in the time to search and if you still have Q's, ask away...
Live Long and F*** Long 😉

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The elist Silicone Implant is a failure by design, a disaster by Surgeon and a Let Down by the Medical board!, in my Unmedical, Unprofessional Opinion 😉
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Bolkonsky
Centurion - thank you for that lengthy response. You are really helping me out. I've already gained 1.25 permanent inches with hanging.. I know i can get another .5 if i just keep at it.  I'm so glad i can jelq post pmma. That really puts my mind at ease. EQ means alot to me as jelqing really helps in that that department.

Mustang  - Thanks man after reading your posts I've now read "miracle 8x7" log so i'm still learning alot.  His pre pmma dick looks very close to mine. so i'm a little excited that i could get to his monster status someday.

I may just have to settle for a 7.5" x 6.5" lol not too bad. my wife just had a kid and i havnt gotten able to try out the tunnel yet (first kid) but i'm very scared. reading Miracle's progress log really has restorted my faith in humanity.. Its amazing how awesome guys can be together when there is a common goal and common good.
Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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Bolkonsky
centurion - With the grip hanging system do you use it as an ADS at work? or do you just hang around the house with it an use something else for an ADS?

It just doesn't seem like i could carry around my vacu-tech pump at work every time i had to take a leak.. lol ... I did see that little 'black pump'.

Do you know if they make just a tube that i could carry and suck on with my lips? I suppose i could make one. What do you do?

Penis-Hanger- Thanks for your post man. I am a seasoned bodybuilder so i definitely do have the longterm mindset here.
Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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Friend face
I noticed no one has said anything about the prison beading everyone is desensitized.
Bolkonsky what angle are you hanging?
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Bolkonsky
yea the prison beading is what got me thinking to go the surgery rout. That was before i knew about PMMA. Its amazing that some guys had their tooth brush parts in their dicks for years with no issues.. Well no issues that they told me about.

I'm hanging straight down while i cook breakfast and eat. I know i need to do some different angles. when i pull on my dick straight up or even up and to the side i feel a totally different pull on different ligaments. I'm sure i'm maxed out on the btc and straight down because i can hang 25lbs with a hard btc  angle (between the cheeks; for the newbs) with no issues.

I just bought a house so i dont have the time to hang alot. I need to do fulcrum hanging. I know i'll gain like crazy if i do. As soon as i'm done moving and getting things set up i'm going to make some really good gains this year i'm sure.

If any mods would make this into a progress report and delete the title "plz help plz input" i would appreciate it. 
Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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Dream
I am shocked reading about this prison thing.

I tried the hanging thing with no success for 3 months, also jelquing and stuff for 3 months each did not give a milimetre in length or girth it seemed. But reading stuff like this makes me already think 'it could work!' again. Well.
Before:                              10.0 cm    erect girth         15.5cm erect length
After Round 1, 10ml 10%:  10.7 cm    erect girth
After Round 2, 10ml 30%:  11.3 cm    erect girth
After Round 3, 12ml 30%:~11.6 cm    erect girth
After Round 4, 11ml 30%:  12.5 cm    erect girth (1 month after, biggest part, smallest part near penis glans is only 10.5cm)
Journal: https://tinyurl.com/phallodreamjournal
there is a like-button >

ps
- i never dislike posts, if i dislike something i write it as a reply 
- PM's are mostly bullshit- ask me in a forum so everybody can read my answer, and never ask me for free pictures
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Bolkonsky
Dream - the whole trick to haning is 1) hang btc and straight down for the first 3  to 4 months  2) hang every day as many sets as you can  3) heat therapy as much as you possibly can. 4) Ride the fatigue wave. Once your on it dont get off of it. and 5) never never never let your dick turtle. I think flacid and bpfsl gains turn into bpel gains.


I've made my mind up.  NO LIG CUTTING FOR ME. I'm going to hang fairly intensely for the next 6 months. And once i get back to 7.5" bpel i'll schedule my PMMA appointment. 

thanks everyone for your input.  I might just have to settle for a 7.5 x 6.5 when its all said and done.  right now i'm at about 7.1"bpel x 5.3 MEG . 

I have quite a bit of tough loose skin from hanging so i hope this will be a positive for PMMA
Before Manual PE:
BPEL 6.25"(probably less as i wasn't measuring right)
EG: top 4.8" base 5.25"

After Manual PE:
Hanging, Jelqing, ULI, Pumping... tried almost everything.
BPEL 7.5"
nbpEL 6.8"  (this measurement varies quite a bit)
EG below glans 5.25"
EG base 6.8"

After 2 pmma rounds


length is same
base girth 7.5"
Mid-shaft girth 6.5"
just below head girth 6"
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