zabra
I’ve had my implant for 1 1/2 years. Haven’t thought about removal. I was really hoping to hear some success stories or even a mediocre story. I was too lazy to do a stretch routine so I was also hoping to hear if anyone had had success stretching with the Elist Implant and what you used?
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Herman Da German
Wrong place to post that. They’ll start piling on and bashing your post anytime. Someone will more than likely say your actually Elist posing as someone. I’ve read a few stories on here that are positive. The rest are pretty sad accounts from what seems like the earlier version of the implant. Anyway I have an appointment for February 8th. Doing the implant with supra pubic lipo. I guess we will see how it goes.
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messageman
Herman De German
The men who pm weekly with horrific implant issues are not getting the ‘earlier’ version.
Does the good doctor still say that removing the implant is seamless and complication free? Lol
Let’s forget the untolled carnage and misery this implant has caused due to infections, loss of sensation, severe retraction, etc, etc, etc....
...Do you know that it is just a piece of plastic slapped on your dick and it feels like that to the touch? It’s like walking around with a cheap dildo between your legs. Your partners will definitely know it’s not real....You’ll have to endure the embarrassment until the day you have to have it removed....
And yes, this board is very suspicious of Elist shills because they frequently pop up on this board.....
So after having access to this board and having access to the dozens of horror stories of the implant, your attitude is to scoff at the evidence “and see how it goes”?
If I had had access to even one of these horror stories (back in 2009), I would have run for the hills
I really wish you the best of luck



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kevin_man
The sad point is that you are saying there is "new" version.

Think about this.  Why would a DR. have a new version and fuck up other men's lives by experimenting with the old version.

Dr. Elist is a liar.  When I got the implant he told me the same thing!  That was 8 years ago.  There is always a "new" version.

Don't kid yourself.


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messageman
When I had my implant put in back in 2009, the failure rate was “less than 1%”...according to Dr. Elist and his staff...lol
Unfortunately, the only information regarding the implant was from his office and the (now) notorious shill site “My New Size”.
I did manage to stay in touch with a legit implant recipient I met through the site though, who coincidentally had to have his removed the day before I did (5 months after having it put in).
When I arrived at the doctor’s office, I asked Dr. Elist if it was a common thing for the implant to have to be removed . He looked in my eyes and said it was , “extremely rare”. Meanwhile, I knew for sure that he had removed one the day before.
A cold chill went down my spine and I knew I was dealing with a liar.
And from all my years on this site and thunders.org I don’t know of a single case in which the recipient was able to keep his implant for more than a few years...This is out of dozens of cases I have been personally involved with.
Again, best of luck Herman Da German!
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naginati
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Herman Da German
I’ve been lurking around on here for months reading everyone’s opinions and results. I actually put off making the appointment back in September after coming across this site. I did other research after that such as going to Mexica, Seoul, & Morganstern in GA. After months of research and talking with multiple doctors I’ve chosen to go with my gut instinct (Elist). Not discounting anyone’s complications they’ve had with Elist, but every procedure comes with a degree of risk and a percentage of complications. Nothing is a 100% successful when it comes to surgery. I was very reluctant to even post on here due to the negative feedback I would get.

If you do your research you can find interesting statistics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30145095 There is actually a second Dr now doing the Penuma implant. https://drbrianchristine.com/genital-aesthetics/penile-girth-and-length-enhancement/ I’m definitely going in to this eyes wide open and know the risks involved. Thanks for your genuine feedback and good intentions behind it,
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CaliOG714
Look's like Elist is recruiting other doctor's to join him in his carnage.... How despicable
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briceb
Herman Da German wrote:

If you do your research you can find interesting statistics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30145095 There is actually a second Dr now doing the Penuma implant. https://drbrianchristine.com/genital-aesthetics/penile-girth-and-length-enhancement/ I’m definitely going in to this eyes wide open and know the risks involved. Thanks for your genuine feedback and good intentions behind it,


You will also note that the article you cited was written by Elist.
You should also note that the "research" company that provides his statistics is owned and operated by Elist and his son.

I also reached out to the doctor you linked.  Although he offers the implant, he is not totally sold on it.  He said that he is working on a better option that does not involve silicone.


I truly wish for your sake that you would highly, highly reconsider getting the Elist implant.  But, like you said, you are going into this "eyes wide open."
You're a big boy and can make your own decisions.  I just think this is a very bad one.
A clear conscience is the sign of a bad memory.
CURRENT: EL 8"  EG 7" midshaft  FL 7-7.5"  FG 6.25-6.5"
GOALS: EL 9"  EG 7"  FL 8"+  FG 6.5"
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andydandy
Eyes wide shut would be a better description.. This guy must be the first one I've seen that hasn't changed his mind after reading all the reports..
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zabra
P33kabuu wrote:
Actually. I think this post is quite welcome here. If there were more positive, legitimately backed posts, the bashing would diminish. I tried very hard to be a success story and had envisioned stretching in the future but my implant is shifting around so much it is impractical to keep it inside any longer. I cannot recommend anyone such a product. It is a fact that it will inevitably have to be removed. I know someone that did have success with it for almost 10 years but even he had to get a replacement because his stitching eventually came undone, as did mine, except mine failed after months, his failed after years. Either way, it's just a matter of time. But good luck to all that go this route, they have my best wishes.

Edit: I have a thread which is with the 2018 version of the implant still having same issues as earlier versions if you haven't read it, I'd recommend, just so you are informed of possible risks.








Yes, I did read your story P33. I followed your story and was saddened when things didn’t work out with the implant for you. Obviously you know your body and what’s best at this point.
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briceb
Andy-

I agree that it does not make any sense to read the horror stories, the blatant lying to patients, the trouble with the medical board, etc. and still want to move forward. 
I have to give it to Elist, he is one hell of a marketer.  I just wish he was half as good as a surgeon.
A clear conscience is the sign of a bad memory.
CURRENT: EL 8"  EG 7" midshaft  FL 7-7.5"  FG 6.25-6.5"
GOALS: EL 9"  EG 7"  FL 8"+  FG 6.5"
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kevin_man
Herman.  You sound like another web user who was a shill for Dr. Elist back when I was making my decision.

Dr. Elist has guys on the web saying they are doing great after surgery and a huge proponent.

One such guy talked to me on the phone, up until the day I had the surgery.

Then I NEVER heard back from him the day after my surgery.  Strange?

I think not.

Dr. Elist cares nothing except making money off of his crap to men by playing into their fears or egos for a bigger dick and balls.
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zabra
Herman Da German wrote:
I’ve been lurking around on here for months reading everyone’s opinions and results. I actually put off making the appointment back in September after coming across this site. I did other research after that such as going to Mexica, Seoul, & Morganstern in GA. After months of research and talking with multiple doctors I’ve chosen to go with my gut instinct (Elist). Not discounting anyone’s complications they’ve had with Elist, but every procedure comes with a degree of risk and a percentage of complications. Nothing is a 100% successful when it comes to surgery. I was very reluctant to even post on here due to the negative feedback I would get.

If you do your research you can find interesting statistics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30145095 There is actually a second Dr now doing the Penuma implant. https://drbrianchristine.com/genital-aesthetics/penile-girth-and-length-enhancement/ I’m definitely going in to this eyes wide open and know the risks involved. Thanks for your genuine feedback and good intentions behind it,


If your going through with it:
1. Do it early in the day. Mine was at 4pm, waited till 6or7 and woke up when it was dark out and never even saw the doc that night.
2. Have some pain meds, they don’t give you any,
3. Note that Elist never measures you erect. I would bring that up. I mean, aren’t we looking for some size increase?
4. With all that’s been said, they did do a good job with follow up. I pissed blood a week after and sent them a video, they called me same day and seemed concerned. It felt good that they did that.
5. My implant is protruding when flaccid. It has corners that push out and is pretty lame. I thought that’s what I was wrapping for every day. Might what to ask about that.
6. PLEASE be aware that all the sharing about Elist lying is true. Not as a con man. But he really is unable to own any mistake or flaw that may arise. That’s when he gets shifty. That’s all.
Stay in touch, and good luck
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zabra
Lol, whoa, hold on with the flood of success stories....I can barley keep up with them. Nah, my story is not a success one. I related with so many things on the boards here. At the same time as the implant I also got a vasectomy and had Lipo on my pubic area. Talk about pain with no meds when I woke up. Plus I woke up at like 9pm, never saw the doctor, he’ll, I don’t even know if Elist is the one who did the damn surgery! I was basically crying in pain, alone, at night, and they got me an Uber to the hotel. One of my testicles got the size of an apple, and Elist blamed me and said I was squeezing my legs together too tight??? Blaming me? Lol. So, when I say if there are any success stories like mine, I don’t mean the surgery or follow ups, or Elist was super cool(lol) or anything like that. The whole interaction with Elist is like trusting a pilot you’ve never met to fly you to Hawaii, but instead you end up in Haiti, and he tells you that is your fault you ended up there.
So by success story, I only mean anyone who still has the implant like me, who is living life with it, and is planning on keeping it. By the way, With the implant I lost an Inch Erect, gained 2 flaccid, and quadrupled my girth. Not the results I was hoping for. Anyway, thanks to all you for sharing you experience. It can be a lonely shameful place after the surgery. Some of us are here for encouragement, some for support, some to be able to vent our pain, some to share our shame in a safe place. And of course there are probably some pervs that read all our stories. But that’s mine in a huge apple sized nut shell
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