Bomber99
Hello guys im new here and i just found out about pmma and think this could be a real solution for my problems.

I desperatly want flaccid length and i have a huge problem with my flaccid turtling all day, it makes me nervous and gives me anxiety.
Erect length would be nice too but I dont feel insecure about my EL(~5,8 inch)
My small flaccid takes away my whole confidence and leaves me feeling depressed and worthless because I dont feel like a real man.
I had this complex for several years, its really stressing me out and affecting my well being a lot and i Think the only way to get over it is to get bigger unit..

So my question is, if pmma can give me a permanent bigger flaccid so that i can have a nice bulge finally.
I tried manual PE for years and it doesnt work for me atleast doesnt change the damm turtling which makes my dick so small.

Since i am from Germany i would get the Pmma from prague, would be nice if anyone who did it in europe could tell me how much i am gonna neues to pay for it because i dont habe a lot of money but i am willing to pay for it anyway since this is very important for me.
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Bomber99
Anyone experiences with pmma just for anti turtling?
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astroman
If greater flaccid length is your goal then you should consider getting a ligament cut. PMMA may give you a small flaccid length gain, but it carries the risk of an unnatural flaccid look, especially given some of the recent results coming out of Prague.
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Bomber99
How much length is a ligament providing usally? 
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Avanti Derma
I fully agree with @astroman 
If @Bomber99 retracts so badly, PMMA may worsen the looks. It's going to look overcorrected in no time.
Even after the possible drawbacks of the section of the suspensory ligament, it's the only viable solution that I see.
You should try to get tamsulosin from your GP. It won't hurt to give it a try.
It can also be helpful to add phallotox but don't have high expectations. They can only offer an extra little push.
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Bomber99
Thank you for your answer! 
Since noone answered on that, im still curious how much length can by lig cut.
I read about the y/v which i shouldnt consider doing because its too risky. 
Can someone tell me what that means?

I am also worried about the erection angle loss people described after the lig cut.
Since my erection angle is pretzy high i could handle some loss but i dont want it to point downwards.. would be very nice if someone Who had the lig cut could answer some of my questions im very scared i could regret this my whole life if it does go wrong, so i want atleast have good Information about what i am doing .
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Toothman
I had my lig cut by  Rosenthal. Turned out fine. Length gIn of approx in flaccid. My erection angle at 90 degrees instead of up. Used to be able to hold heavy towel when erect. Scar is about 2 in horizontal above shaft. 
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Toothman
Meant inch gain flaccid 
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Bomber99
Thats great news my friend.
I feel like an inch more should look very different than before especially for my flaccid because mine doesnt hang like normal penis it more sticks out to like 75 degrees..
Did you experience a big visual difference after your surgery? @Toothman 
And did u use a stretcher / extender after surgery or where the gains right away?
Another thing i wonder is if being a grower or shower makes a difference in gains i can expect..
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Toothman
I was always a grower not a shower. I had a penis that was 4.5 in flaccid and kinda stuck out. After the surgery to lengthen I had a flaccid of 5.5-6. However is just hangs lower relative to balls. It doesn’t point as straight up as before. Before it would point straight up and I felt I could hold up a women just by having my dick in her. Sorry for 
visual. Now, if erect at most is will point slightly up from horizontal to floor and it is a little wobbly. I wish scar was not as visible though. I like to keep my hair short. Anyway, more questions let me know. 
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Toothman
Btw, do not do pmma. Only HA in my opinion for girth. Whatever u do girth wise should always be reversible. 
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Damenn
Don’t do the implant. It will look bigger flaccid but your erections will be shorter. They don’t tell you that before the surgery. If for some chance you do the surgery and have to get it removedater you will permanently be smaller. 
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Bomber99
@Toothman how do you handle sex with your erection this downwards? What changed for you there?
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Toothman
Sex has been fine after the lig cut. I still had some of lig so it still worked fine and overall was stable. I had lig cut in 2012. I should have stopped there. I am currently suffering from penile lymphedema due to both pmma placement and removal, so currently sex is close to nonexistent. Removal was 3 mos ago, and swelling has not gone away. Sad thing is I am a fit 43 yo with a very hot wife and 3 young kids. Mentally it’s been tough. My suggestion is, don’t mess with a thing. You working, untouched penis is best. 
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Bomber99
I am sorrry to hear that you are suffering from this awful condition hope removal will show its effects soon and you can enjoy sex again. 
You say you had still some of the lig after surgery, what do you mean by that , did you get a normal lig cut surgery which is avaivable on almost all the plastic surgery websites out there or did you get some loss dangerous(less effective?) type of surgery?

And after the lig cut surgery did you use any extender/hanging device?
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