LatinLog
I thought I would pose my viewpoint on a topic I have given great thought,  "ideal penis size".  Now most studies examine the sheer size and girth, flaccid and erect.  While some allow women to hold molded phallus's of varying lengths and girths to dictate their preferences and desires. I've even seen some that allow women to select a particular body style with preference of penis size.  Problem number 1.  Women feel with their body and not with their eyes.  Last I checked there were no eyes located in the vaginal canal?  My point is this.  If you truly would like to know what the ideal size is, then a comprehensive study using the correct methods needs to occur.  

Example A.  Blind taste test-  The consumer does not see the label, the packaging, or know anything about it.  Instead they allow the mouth to tell the truth. Which one literally tastes better to you, has more flavor, is more appealing and satisfying?  Without any outside influences.

Why should the penis be studied any differently?  Using the above analogy, allowing the consumer to see the product could influence their true perspective of it.  This could be due to many factors, such as what we've been told in the media, told by others, read, advertising, or urban myth's about certain products being superior. I believe as much as each persons mouth is filled with numerous sensory nerves and thousands of tastebuds, in the same regard the female vagina is equally as sensitive and complex and the eyes cannot truly tell what it prefers.

The test should be a blind test in a clinical setting.  Couples of all shapes, ages, races, sizes and walks of life should be included.  Have 1 clinical professional present for documenting the findings and observing the consistency of each test.  They should have a partner attach a molded penis to a motorized device (for consistency) for each varying size.  Randomly selecting sizes ranging from 4 inches to 8 inches, with sizes represented in 1/2 inch increments (4", 4.5", 5", 5.5" and so on).  Have them rate rate each one after say 10-20 seconds of penetration.  Once the Ideal length for that individual is established begin adding girth to that size until preferred girth is established.  I would bet you money we would be shocked how many women preferred men in the 5-6 inch length range.  The best part about it, they would not know what they were getting or what they selected, they would truly have to rate it according to how it felt, not how it looked or how they perceive it should feel. 

I must also highlight that I realize that there are many aspects related to enjoyable sex and sensuality. Penis size does not check all the boxes.  This would strictly be a clinical examination of what physically feels the best for the majority of women within the vagina.   

Food for thought. 

Lifestyles give me a call, Dr. Ruth, holla at me, let's make this happen. 

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Current 5.2" FL, 8x5.5-mid BPE (Erect gain from 2 years post continued hanging/extending)


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aamd82fo
I've read God only knows how many studies on this and they are very consistent with their results. Women DO prefer a larger than average penis but not too big. For example, if the average erect length is 6", give or take, women seem to prefer a 7". Anything past this (like a 9 incher) is just considered too much, too uncomfortable. Not surprisingly, there are basically zero women who prefer a smaller than average size penis. 

It is also this way with other mens characteristics. Women prefer taller than average men, say 6 foot 2 but much taller than this is considered odd looking. A 6 foot 8 guy is not going to be very attractive to most women, unless of course the woman is really tall herself. 
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LatinLog
Show me a study like I've outlined. It seems you missed the whole point of a study like this. Judge by feel not by social standards or what you've been told or perceive to be enjoyable. Let's just start holding our food and looking at it to judge it's taste then. 
Show me a study where women were blindly penetrated with penises of varying sizes and they all chose 7 inches.  I don't buy it.  This study would be a blind study, they would have to rate it simply by feel. Nothing else, nobody telling them oh this is 7 inches your favorite or here comes a small 4 incher...  
PS. I am well well beyond 6 inches and my wife cannot take it all. She has actually always prefered partners in the 5-6 range. So no not ALL women prefer 7 inches or more.
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Current 5.2" FL, 8x5.5-mid BPE (Erect gain from 2 years post continued hanging/extending)


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messageman

PS. I am well well beyond 6 inches and my wife cannot take it all. She has actually always prefered partners in the 5-6 range. So no not ALL women prefer 7 inches or more.

then why are you continuing to do exercises to elongate your penis? Just curios.
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LatinLog
messageman wrote:

PS. I am well well beyond 6 inches and my wife cannot take it all. She has actually always prefered partners in the 5-6 range. So no not ALL women prefer 7 inches or more.

then why are you continuing to do exercises to elongate your penis? Just curios.


I do not hang heavy weight any longer. In my experience this was the way to gain erect length. I primarily only extend now to promote a longer flaccid hang. Since you were curious. 
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Pre Ligament Release  4" FL, 7.1x5.5-mid BPE
Current 5.2" FL, 8x5.5-mid BPE (Erect gain from 2 years post continued hanging/extending)


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Hulkmam
LatinLog wrote:


I do not hang heavy weight any longer. In my experience this was the way to gain erect length. I primarily only extend now to promote a longer flaccid hang. Since you were curious. 



hey how did you gain erect length?  I’m doing everything and simply want a little more length but can’t achieve this goal. I currently hang with the lg hanger although the lg seems to always cause me issues 
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Dream
Please do this study if you win in the lottery!
(ps please only use hot women and categorize with ethnicities)
Before:                              10.0 cm    erect girth         15.5cm erect length
After Round 1, 10ml 10%:  10.7 cm    erect girth
After Round 2, 10ml 30%:  11.3 cm    erect girth
After Round 3, 12ml 30%:~11.6 cm    erect girth
After Round 4, 11ml 30%:  12.5 cm    erect girth (1 month after, biggest part, smallest part near penis glans is only 10.5cm)
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ToughPilllToSwallow
Even the blind test you outlined has the same problem as all ideal penis studies.  It is my belief that women are ashamed to admit that they love a larger dick.   They will choose an average one, or slightly above, because they would be embarrassed to go for the big one.  I do not have any studies to back that up.  Just my own experience, being above average to start.
Before PE, August 2017:
E: 6 1/4 x 5 1/8
F:  4 1/2 x 4 1/4

July 2019, after 2 years manual PE, immediately before PMMA round 1
E: 6 7/8 x 5 1/4
F: 4 1/2 x 4 1/2

October 2019, final result after 1 round PMMA
E: 6 3/4 x 6
F: 4 3/4 x 5 1/4
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Jar1234
You got .75" in girth from R1 pmma? That sounds huge for one round.
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Skeptical One
Jar1234 wrote:
You got .75" in girth from R1 pmma? That sounds huge for one round.


That's close to the average gains seen from PMMA after a first round.

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That's close to the average gains seen from PMMA after a first round.


no chance, that's just not true at all. i respect your forum and there's no doubt if it was mine, i would also get paid to orient it toward all-positive accounts of pmma, but there's a difference between doing that and trumping it. you can't claim 3/4 of an inch. if people are gonna come on here and claim 3/4 of an inch permanent girth increase after round one then for sure they're all ringer accounts, or injecting steroids. 
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Skeptical One
number22 wrote:


no chance, that's just not true at all. i respect your forum and there's no doubt if it was mine, i would also get paid to orient it toward all-positive accounts of pmma, but there's a difference between doing that and trumping it. you can't claim 3/4 of an inch. if people are gonna come on here and claim 3/4 of an inch permanent girth increase after round one then for sure they're all ringer accounts, or injecting steroids. 


"No chance, that's not true at all." So I'm lying?

I'm not orienting toward positive-accounts of PMMA, I'm stating what I've learned here. Have you read every single post ever made on this forum? I have. Literally the only place on the internet with both sufficient and credible data as it pertains to the stats. And while there are obvious outliers (like patient goals or the performing physician), people here by & large have reported 3/4th's an inch on average from a Full Round 1. Those are facts.

Separate to my own observations, Avanti Derma submitted the same average in their documentation. They haven't historically lied or exaggerated about their statistics, so why wouldn't I consider this valid? These are also facts.

The only way I could make sense of your unfortunate remarks is if there have been changes with the amount of product initially injected on the first round. My assessment of the 0.75" average comes from a "whole decade's worth" of progress reporting. If Avanti Derma recently began injecting less product for first rounders, this would better explain the misunderstanding (similar to how Dr. Carney changed his protocol to 10mL max first round). Then we could rephrase the average to say "historically 0.75" but very recently 0.5" (or whatever the number may be).

If Avanti Derma has not changed or capped the amount of product used for first appointments, then I stand behind my estimate.

Of course, and this goes without saying, no gain is guaranteed. I gained a whole inch my first round, exceeding the estimated average. I know some who had less. But averages are just that, and not a guarantee.


p.s. My Sponsors pay to keep this site promoting transparency & legitimacy in a historically unpopular field of medicine. They Sponsor the mission, and the advertising is an incentivizing perk. Don't believe me? Dr. Solomon has made like 3 posts and Dr. Carney 0 posts. They both continue to pay Sponsorship with almost zero advertising (when they are perfectly allowed to). I have convinced them to be more active in 2020, and the readers benefit from this at no charge.

Furthermore, I don't get paid for referrals. I could keep my mouth shut about PMMA for the rest of my days and it wont affect my Sponsorship because it was never part of the agreement. Sponsors know that I do not delete poor reviews that can be backed up and are credible. What I can do is put those unhappy customers in touch with the Sponsor to hopefully remedy the situation. All parties win.

Lastly, there is no benefit of "orienting" toward PMMA when I have Sponsors offering HA, Ellanse, and Surgimend. It would make no sense to ride the PMMA train and alienate other options that are also paying me the same amount to keep this site going. So when I do give opinions & observations, I'd like to think my efforts here have earned me the benefit of the doubt.

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hoddle10
About 6 years ago @briceb went through the data for gains made after 1 round of pmma, to compare the difference between 10% and 30%.

The average gain between the 2 groups was around 0.69". 

https://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/comparing-gains-with-10-vs-30-concentrations-6364826

So based on that 0.75" is actually close to the average. 
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