Jec
I have been lurking on the old board for some while and am undecided should I get pmma. I am 4,5 EG like many who has gotten the procedure done.

From before/after pics it is hard to make conclusions of the results.
All except sizemic's results look quite unnatural and bruised.
Why are his results so different looking? Is it just in my eyes?
I'd rather have smaller and natural, than thick and strange.
So it would probably be gamble how my results would look with pmma?

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Dd71

there is a tradeoff thats for sure. You and I have similar EGs and I have to say, its on the smaller side of average. Im not trying to get huge, but i feel 5.5-6.0 is more than enough and attainable with our starting stats. Every penis is diffrent, E.P.s results were amazing and he and I also have the same stats. Its a small gamble, but dude....your on a PE site! Your here for a reason! if it doesent bother you to the point you your unhappy than I would just stick with what god gave you.

6.2 ELx 4.7 EG- Desired Girth 5.5 top 5.8 mid shaft 6+ base
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Skeptical One
Jec wrote:
I have been lurking on the old board for some while and am undecided should I get pmma. I am 4,5 EG like many who has gotten the procedure done.

From before/after pics it is hard to make conclusions of the results.
All except sizemic's results look quite unnatural and bruised.
Why are his results so different looking? Is it just in my eyes?
I'd rather have smaller and natural, than thick and strange.
So it would probably be gamble how my results would look with pmma?


If you came to the forums after the photos were taken down, it may be less apparent that most photos that appear to be bruised are usually well within their recovery period.

The best way to pass judgment on the aesthetics of a PMMA penis is to examine it 6 weeks post-op from the 2nd injection appointment.  That is because the first appointment will almost inevitably have major/minor aesthetic issues that is meant to be resolved by the 2nd appointment.  The bruising should usually be gone by 6 weeks post-op, regardless of which round it was (1st, 2nd, 3rd).

If you are relying on photos to help you make a decision, I'd definitely hang around and wait till more are submitted.  You are going to want to look at the 6 weeks-post op of penises that have undergone a 2nd or 3rd round.

good luck with whatever it is you decide to do.

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Jec
Yes, it might be just that I have looked photos from recovery period.
I am actually about to pay my flight today! That's why I have major last minute doubts.
Yesterday I read the links Supa sent to on the old pmma thread.
Now I don't know if I am taking some mega risk on my penis health.... uh oh.
I already thought it's safe, but I guess it's not so clear yet?

Are there risks that I could loose erection for life? Or major unstoppable inflammation?

I have planned to take 10% to minimize risks but then the results might be minimal.

Thank's for nice replies.
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mikehok
Yes I have decided that if I do go ahead, I will probably go for either a lower volume (maybe 10ml) of 30% or the normal volume of only 10%. This is mainly for aesthetic reasons. You can always add more but you can't take away.

As to the health issue, hard to make any useful comment. Thousand of people have obviously had newplastic pumped into various parts of their bodies, with significant volumes going into butts. The difficulty is that someone can claim in a report that such and such a thing is a possibility, and it's hard to prove otherwise.  I suspect the risk is minimal, but that's simply gut feel.
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mikehok
Just out of interest I read this in relation to Artefill but the same would apply to pmma generally

"Overcorrection at the initial treatment session should be avoided as the body may respond better by being able to encapsulate a smaller quantity of product more frequently. "

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HunkChunk
Hi Mikehok,

I'm with you on that one, I think that a "conservative" approach is the right one here given the irreversible part of the equation. "Move ahead cautiously when there is no turning back..." isn't that what Indiana Jones would have said?

This is exactly what Dr Casavantes highly recommends and he is apparently not so pleased with the fact that girth hungry patients seek bigger is better solutions to too little girth. Now don't get me wrong, girth is also what I want because it is what the ladies like - right? But heck why settle for just a little when you can get a lot? 

I think it might be useful to start a Penis Aesthetics thread here, so that we no longer fail to lost all sense of reference as to what an organ looks like. Not that they can't come in all shapes and sizes, but that there might be some incidence of the final result which might both impact our decision so go ahead with a certain procedure or other, or to do so with specific objectives in mind.

I would refer to PMMA as "collagen sculpting" which when done with skillful hands such as those of Dr C can produce amazingly splendid results. But as with any artist you can't just tell them "pack it on!" and hope it will look perfect. I think that he should know what you seek but then let his artistic licence speak. His task, since it is permanent and we are only the "guardian of our penis", is to enhance it and not turn it into a circus freak. Sure we want to get the oooohs and gasps... But at the end we'll wind up with what we have for keeps.

Form and function cannot always be met in equal measure and of course trade-offs will need to be made. If you're short as I and a few others here are, then it is a  choice between limiting girth objectives or sacrificing the usual longitudinal proportions of a projected organ which might tend to appear to be stubbed. Now if it pleases the ladies they may come to find that shape beautiful for the promise of joy it represents. 

Yet it is also something which incarnates our sense of manhood, who we are and what we have got as a hidden asset? At least this is how I perceive it from my current next to bankrupt assessment in my own accounting. So preserving at least a semblance of authentic appearance will help not only feel good about how it reflects on our overall bodily aesthetics, but also will help us identify it as ours and not some transplanted organ that looks nothing like us.

I think that IF this summer I go ahead and visit Dr C it will be with that purpose in mind, to resculpt the penis with first and foremost aesthetics in mind, regardless of the time taken and number of sessions or cost to achieve a result. Taking it slower than fast will no doubt not only limit the risks of unexpected shapes needing further thickening to conceal, but it will also give one more gradual options in terms of just how to taper, what the perfect base girth might be, and even the general shape of the organ. FWIW.

HC
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Skeptical One
Jec wrote:
Yes, it might be just that I have looked photos from recovery period.
I am actually about to pay my flight today! That's why I have major last minute doubts.
Yesterday I read the links Supa sent to on the old pmma thread.
Now I don't know if I am taking some mega risk on my penis health.... uh oh.
I already thought it's safe, but I guess it's not so clear yet?

Are there risks that I could loose erection for life? Or major unstoppable inflammation?

I have planned to take 10% to minimize risks but then the results might be minimal.

Thank's for nice replies.


Keep in mind any procedure you choose to undergo will have risks.  Women seeking out the common & refined practice of the "boob job" still face risks, so us guys certainly have it much riskier when we approach a lesser refined field (i.e. phalloplasty).

I will say, however, that the Bioplasty technique definitely has major advantages over traditional surgery, but that does not make it free of risks.

In the end, most will conclude:
  1. To go with a procedure (i.e. PMMA) after having researched thoroughly.
  2. Decline pursuing a procedure only to wait out more progress reports before reassessing their decision.
  3. Decline all procedures and pursue manual PE.
I'm most concerned with those who have decided to undergo PMMA in specific without having thoroughly reviewed all the information that's currently out there.  PMMA is almost too good to be true, which is why I'm still reserved on the topic (even though I love my own result).  I'm obviously pro-PMMA to some extent, but ultimately know that there is still a lot we're learning about and cannot possibly conclude with 100% certainty that this is the Holy Grail for Girth (until of course, stem cell magic rules the day).  Time will tell that, though I have a hunch that we've come across something legit!

For those who have "mixed feelings" (the title of this thread), be sure you feel that you are doing it for all the right & healthy reasons, and keep in mind that this is not an easy process (PMMA in specific) to reverse.

Good luck jec and all others who are contemplating their PE futures.

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Jec


Do you guys think vacads is okay to use during the days after the procedure?
The silicone covers some shaft too but it's not that tight with my super small flaccid girth.

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Jec
Can't make her orgasm.
I just dunno what to do. I want to stay with her forever but were incompatible down there.
I just wish I had inch more girth. I have EG 4.3-4.5 EL 6 ,and amazingly tiny flaccid. I just want her to feel me.

Scared about possible risks like inflammatio in future with pmma in penis.
I don't want to loose what I have but can't stop worrying about my size.
I do have the cash to drop if I needed for treatments in worst case scenarios.

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HunkChunk
Jec

I posted in my progress thread how this rocked an old relationship where she had two kids and for years lost interest in me. Now she's all over me and says she hopes she doesn't lose me to another woman. This is after only slight girth enhancement as the first session collagen buildup hasn't really kicked in yet. 

So I'll venture out on a limb and say you've got nothing here to lose as you're in a very similar situation. Try to ask them to keep it as natural looking as possible and they know exactly what that means. As soon as she notices something she missed is there - and NO it is not her ex-boyfriend's size but that extra stretch of satisfying girth - then she'll be the one afraid of losing you. 

It is a small step to take when you consider all this and had I realized instead of having last minute serious doubts I would have stormed the clinic as a stand-by patient awaiting the cancellation of a less decided candidate..

Best of luck and happy travels.

HC
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Jec
honestly I am put back from pmma now again after Dr.Cassutos message.

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skatezy777
Hi Jec,

My personal two cents is that if you're having doubts, hold off.  That's just me.  You don't want to regret things later down the road.  

Skatezy
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HunkChunk
This is surgery and furthermore it is irreversible so one must be quite sure of one's motivation and commitment to the procedure.
 
HC
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eqstudent

@Jec

Instead of going by ‘notions’ try talking to your SO to see if there is a real problem or it is only in your head.  Her ex may be “huge”, but he is an ex and you are now the man, which should count for something.

Most women (from >50% to ~70%) depending on the study do not have an orgasm from just intercourse.  If your SO has had intercourse orgasms in the past, talk to her about what it took to get there.  It may require a change in position, angle, pace, rhythm, or pressure to help her come.

IMO ignore most of the “letters to playboy” style testimonials’ about how women go wild for increased size you see on message boards.  Think about it, they are mostly from regular size guys who deluded themselves into thinking they were too small to satisfy a woman.  How do we know thay are not deluding themselves into thinking that the woman is now passing out from orgasms?  The mind is a very funny thing.

Now, if all you want is a bigger unit so you can walk around feeling that you have a bigger dick than the next guy, ignore everything I have said and just go for it!

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