antoineclamaran
Hi guys. I had the courage to try the glans enhancement, though there had been risks, as pretty much no doctor was doing this procedure in the world (maybe except for the Australian doc, who was very far for me).

The good news- it's a low risk, I've had no problems, it's been over a month and penis functions normally, no pain whatsoever.

Bad news- you hardly gain anything.

I went to the Doctor mato had been to, Dr D'Angelo in Naples, Italy. Nice city (watch out for taxis!), clean office. The man is ok, speaks English fluently. He answers to emails and even gives you his phone to call him in case of emergencies. From what I read on mato's HA topic and discussed with him in PMs, I knew the Doc didn't insert many ml, mato told me he only inserts 1 at a time. So, having read that (and considering that mato had had good results and was happy about it- but I guess his happy results came mostly from the Belotero in the penis, not in the glans-), I didn't request the Doc for a lot, I figured 4 ml would be more than enough.

So, I went in, we talked about it, he presented the 2 options he had: HA or Radiesse (which is supposed to be the better prodict and longer lasting). I chose Radiesse. Got the anesthesia and he inserted 2 ml at which point I started to feel a lot of pain and I chickened out thinking that something terrible might have happened (like a urinary canal being filled or something) and I said we stop there, it's enough. He reassured me that nothing had ever happened to his patients and he has inserted this many times and I only felt pain because we didn't wait longer for the anesthesia to kick in. He put some more anesthesia for me and I left to the hotel on my own feet.  Needless to say, I was scared shitless, thinking "why the f did I ever do this?". But in 1-2 hours, I was feeling great, there was no more pain and I realized he had been right- we just hadn;t waited enough for the anesthesia to kick in.

He was unavailable to continue the next day, so I left and went back to Naples in a couple of weeks. Now...the bad thing was that I was unhappy with the results, there really seemed to be no increase, neither visibly or even through measurement of the glans. No gains. So I decided to have one more shot, but this time with more quantity and try the HA, to see if it's better than the Radiesse.

Doc says that Radiesse is the superior product, but having had no gains, I wanted to try something else, if it was safe. He says there's no problem if he inserts HA over Radiesse or other way around. So this time I got another 4ml. Wrapping up, I asked him if it's possible to put in even more at a time and, to my surprise, he said that yes, it is possible to insert about 2 more ml, going to 6 ml at a time. 

His method of inserting is through many needle injections. I got a little bruising for a couple of days after the second procedure and called him to see if it was something common (here is where you won;t get much help from him, as he'll basically say "suck it up, nothing has ever happened, you don;t have to take anything", but at least he answers). I just took something from the Italian pharmacy against a possible infections as it seemed I had a tiny cut on the gland (amoxiciline I think) and he was right, a few days later it was all ok. I stayed in Naples 1 day after the procedure every time, in case something bad happened I could be close to him.

The insertion points are somewhat visible if you look really close on the penis glans, but they will probably disipate over time. 

In total, I had 6 ml inserted and I can see a slight increase, but nothing substantial. It cost me 1200 euros+ 4 flights and accommodation in Naples. 1 ml costs 200 euros. I don't know why the HA is as expensive as the Radiesse (Radiesse being superior), but I guess he just doesn't care, gives the same price. 

Conclusion: I think to achieve a desired result you need to do at least 6 ml every time and go at least 3 times, for a total of 18 ml. I don't know if I will be going back for more (I believed you could get a lot from 2-4 ml), but this is just for the guys who want my opinion on the matter. You really have to insert a lot or else...no results. That would mean quite a lot of money for just the glans, but when you really need it, perhaps because PMMA makes a big discrepancy between the penis and the glans, then... you really need it!! Looking forward to hearing here from other people who have tried more quantity than I have.

At least I can say to people that it seems safe, there have been no complications and there don't seem to be. 
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antoineclamaran
Just a side thing- I told him I had had PMMA inserted in Prague by Dr Nemeckova. He is very much against it. He considers it very dangerous and says it has been forbidden in Italy and he himself has had many cases of nechrosis from it injected in the face (he says he does a lot of face and boobs jobs). He practically begged me not to do it again.

He says that injecting Belotero or Fat or HA in the penis will guarantee a 60% retention even after 2 years and practically forever (even though most people think would say that is bullshit).

It's just his opinion I think, man to man, as he had nothing to gain from saying it than just a warning for me, I wasn't intending to do any procedure on the rest of the penis at his office. 

I wonder what you guys think the retention for Belotero or Fat or HA is after 2 years and if you agree with his 60%. I always believed that fat completely absorbs and even HA mostly does so as well.
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Just a side thing- I told him I had had PMMA inserted in Prague by Dr Nemeckova. He is very much against it. He considers it very dangerous and says it has been forbidden in Italy and he himself has had many cases of nechrosis from it injected in the face (he says he does a lot of face and boobs jobs). He practically begged me not to do it again.

He says that injecting Belotero or Fat or HA in the penis will guarantee a 60% retention even after 2 years and practically forever (even though most people think would say that is bullshit).

It's just his opinion I think, man to man, as he had nothing to gain from saying it than just a warning for me, I wasn't intending to do any procedure on the rest of the penis at his office. 

I wonder what you guys think the retention for Belotero or Fat or HA is after 2 years and if you agree with his 60%. I always believed that fat completely absorbs and even HA mostly does so as well.


As a member of this forum you'll have seen way more PE results with PMMA than this Dr. Guys have been having reporting their PMMA results on here since 2011 and I don't think we've had a single member who suffered necrosis. Yet we have seen several necrotic episodes for dermal matrix grafts (belladerm/alloderm), one from HA, one from PLGA scaffolds, one from dextran and one from and Elist implant. his is despite probably having double the amount of reports on PMMA, than all those other methods put together. 

I'm not saying PMMA doesn't have its fair share of complications or that necrosis isn't a possibility. But it's frustratingly typical of Dr's to say stuff like that, when in reality, PMMA is no more likely to cause necrosis than other fillers. It's a crazy comment to come from a Dr who is injecting Radiesse into the glans with a needle. You should have asked how exactly could it be safer (in terms of necrosis) to inject a filler, that can't be dissolved into the glans with a needle, is safer than injecting PMMA, under the penis skin with a cannula?
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Skeptical One
Glans enhancement is unreliable in my personal opinion. Yes you can (conceivably) get good results, but I'd be damned if I got glans work done by a Doctor who isn't a true expert in phalloplasty.

Pictures would help.

As someone who has had dwarfing of the glans due to an augmented shaft (an aesthetic issue I knew full well was a possibility with my girth goals), glans enhancement is of great interest to me. Even if I were presented with any of this site's Sponsors (i.e. experts), I'd still likely abstain from getting glans work done. Anatomically-speaking, it seems to pose too great a risk to warrant what little size gains it may yield. Again, this is my opinion based on having observed past glans enhancements. That isn't to say methodologies can't be refined or innovated to produce desirable & consistent results.

And as for his PMMA comments: irresponsible. It's jackasses like this who perpetuate the phalloplasty-stigma.

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antoineclamaran
Yes you can (conceivably) get good results, but I'd be damned if I got glans work done by a Doctor who isn't a true expert in phalloplasty.

Pictures would help.



Why do you say he's not a true expert in phalloplasty? He told me he has had many cases of penis and glans enhancements (of course, not all people are gonna post here. Mato did)

Pictures wouldn't really show anything as there was hardly much gained. Like I said on the op, I believe you need to use A LOT of mls. I used 6 ml and it's just a few milimetres gained.


Anatomically-speaking, it seems to pose too great a risk to warrant what little size gains it may yield.


By making this thread, having been one of the few who actually had this procedure, I wanted to say to guys who are really desperate and feel the need for glans enhancement, that the risks are NOT really that big. I consider the procedure pretty risk-free, at least safer than having cement-like fillers (having also dealt with the lumps left after PMMA).

That is, I'm not saying that people should definitely try it if they don't necessarily need it and I would somehow feel very guilty if people had severe reactions to it (the penis is not a toy. If it works think 100 times before doing something). I know I didn't have complications. And I did it twice. Mato didn't have complications. And he did it like 2-3 times. Doctor said there has never been nechrosis or even minor side effects. That's at least somewhat reassuring. 

Doctor is the only one in Europe who does it. So I think he's actually a really good option to keep an eye on in this forum.
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Why do you say he's not a true expert in phalloplasty? He told me he has had many cases of penis and glans enhancements (of course, not all people are gonna post here. Mato did)

Pictures wouldn't really show anything as there was hardly much gained. Like I said on the op, I believe you need to use A LOT of mls. I used 6 ml and it's just a few milimetres gained.




By making this thread, having been one of the few who actually had this procedure, I wanted to say to guys who are really desperate and feel the need for glans enhancement, that the risks are NOT really that big. I consider the procedure pretty risk-free, at least safer than having cement-like fillers (having also dealt with the lumps left after PMMA).

That is, I'm not saying that people should definitely try it if they don't necessarily need it and I would somehow feel very guilty if people had severe reactions to it (the penis is not a toy. If it works think 100 times before doing something). I know I didn't have complications. And I did it twice. Mato didn't have complications. And he did it like 2-3 times. Doctor said there has never been nechrosis or even minor side effects. That's at least somewhat reassuring. 

Doctor is the only one in Europe who does it. So I think he's actually a really good option to keep an eye on in this forum.


I didn't moderate a penis enlargement forum for a decade and suddenly forgot why I avoid glans enhancement. Maybe I'll wake up some day.

The more progress reports the better. We didn't guess who was good and what worked without people willing to voluntarily post about their experiences. I implore all progress reports of all procedure types & doctors. -- As as matter of fact, it'd do both you & your physician justice by showing us some before & after photos (unless you posted it and I missed it ? ).

I can't begin to stress how much I really want there to be a consistent & effective glans enhancement, but I'm privy to an abundance of first-hand accounts, including ones not shared publicly (comes with the territory) --> all which either point to complication or poor aesthetics. I know glans enhancement CAN work, but how consistently & aesthetically remains to be seen. (Sample sizes are needed, those who lurk and have had glans work done, please post irrespective of your outcome).

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Why do you say he's not a true expert in phalloplasty? He told me he has had many cases of penis and glans enhancements (of course, not all people are gonna post here. Mato did)




I didn't say your doctor wasn't an expert, I was speaking in generality.

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Pictures wouldn't really show anything as there was hardly much gained. Like I said on the op, I believe you need to use A LOT of mls. I used 6 ml and it's just a few milimetres gained.




That's another glans-enhancement issue I have: If the gains are so minimal that you can't make it out in a Before & After, why on Earth would I spend the funds & risk any sort of complication for a negligible gain in glans size? Isn't the point of cosmetic augmentation to "notice a difference?" 

If you are dealing with small volumes, it may be safer this way, but for those looking to adequately enlarge small or dwarfed glans wont benefit from these procedures from a risk-yield perspective.

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antoineclamaran
Androfill has added HA in the glans to their offer (no mention of Radiesse though).

https://www.androfill.co.uk/glans-penis-enlargement/

Why is this stuff so expensive though? They have it at 350 pounds per ml., while PMMA in Praguue or Mexico is at about 100 per ml. In Italy, the glans enhancement was at 200 per ml and I already thought it was a gigantic price. I've had 6 ml injected and it did almost nothing. Considering that a person needs about 3 visits of 6 ml to actually achieve a result (not huge, just decent), that means 3600 euros in Naples or 5400 pounds in Great Britain at Androfill. 

Whoever affords to pay this and goes to have it, please post some updates on your results. 
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mato23
antoine, mind that the doctor fee is around 600/700 for his work plus 100 per ml. If you need a touch up he usually charge you less (around 300) for his work. At least this is how much I paid. 
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Hi guys,
since i'm not allowed to update my thread https://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/my-ha-experience-9664967?pid=1310119077 anymore and some guys are asking me for news, I'll do it here because this topic is about the same doctor I wento to.

Just to recap, now I'm over 2 YRS (26 months) after my first procedure, I had 10 ml in February 2018, 7 in August 2018 and 10 in February 2019,

I'm happy as I've ever been about my "new" dick, I'm totally confident and used about by now.

Some tips based on my experience:

Not everyone is fit for it and results may be diffrent from one person to another, the pro is that you can have it dissolved or let it break down with time. Some guys complain about accordion effect, squishiness, uneveness...

At the beginning is difficult to get used to the new sensitivity and "mechanics", it took me a few months to get used to it but now I'm completely used to it. My advise is to think as if you where born with your new dick.

After 3 procedures the HA tends to last much longer, 6 months after procedure 1 the decrease was around 25%, 6 months after procedure 2 (1Yr after 1st) the decrease was around 20%, 1year after procedure 3 (2YR and 2 months after 1st) the decrease is almost none. 

My stats were
FG around 10 cm. (4")
E.G. around 12,5 cm. (5”)

After 3rd procedure (1YR ago) and now (after 26 months) I'm

FG 14 cm. (5,5 inches)
E.G. around 15 (5,9”)
 
Some pics:

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I'm probably having soon another procedure because I'd like to get another half inch girth.

Since I can't update my topic anymore this will be probably my last post.

 Antoine, let me know if you have any issue and I'll delete this post. Thanks.
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Fantastic results Mato, it looks great. A couple of questions, when you say the new sensitivity is it more or less sensitive? And what’s different about the mechanics of it? Does the layer of HA feel firm when you’re erect or it is a soft layer over your hard dick? And lastly do you have trouble concealing it in trousers, swim shorts, speedos etc? It looks great and is a great advert for HA. Good luck with the next round, you’ll have a beast. 
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Thanks for the updates Mato - would you be open to sharing it over at the new forum found at http://www.phalloboards.info ? Much of the site traffic is and has moved over there, and your contributions are incredibly helpful! 

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Than thanks for sharing,it’s very helpful to me.
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beardy07
What’s your flaccid length before and after and erect ?
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