Toothman
I had 10 vials of bellafill, 8cc of pmma placed, oct of 2018. It has been a very trying time emotionally, physically, maritally. My prior enhancement hx was legthening with Dr R in 2011, and alloderm 2012. Alloderm has to be removed 1 week later due to supposed infection. I believe the blood flow was insufficient because too much was placed at the time. Since then, my penis healed up very well. I had a 6 in flaccid length and 5.5 in flaccid girth. Erect I was 7.5 in length and 6 in girth. Fast forward to oct 2018. I was discussing p shot and girth enhancement with my derm. She suggested filler, and I wanted something that would last a long time. She said bellafill was a good option. It wasn’t surgery in my eyes and it was quick and easy. Yes the procedure was easy, but when things go wrong with filler that is very long lasting, it becomes a problem. 

Let me be clear. Bellafill or any permanent filler is not supposed to be in penis. Your body rejects it by forming a foreign body reaction. Chronic inflammation and nodules. I have issues with nodules that we have tried to treat with steroid shot. Really does nothing and areas will come back because pmma is still there. The last shot I received caused erosion of skin which has been 3 weeks and still needs to heal. 

The pmma filler feels odd. Like a loose mass of soft chewed gum u fed the skin. Doesn’t feel natural or right. My girth erect is now 7 in, but natural healthy penis is so much better. 

I am currently having some lymphatic issues. Left side of shaft by base I can feel enlarged lymphatics and I feel an enlarged lymph node behind knee. Let me explain why I think bellafill is really bad in penis. Bellafill essentially builds scar tissue due to a chronic irritant. This scar tissue forms on the dorsal, top, portion of penis which now it is found is where the penis lymphatics run. So we r creating scar tissue in the superficial fascia of penis where the lymphatic vessels are located. No you can understand why lymphatics of penis will be negatively affected after pmma. 

So so now it’s been 7 mos. I have upcoming appt with surgeon in Cali to have bellafill removed. 
Obsticles to overcome hopefully are possibility of necrosis, adhesion, lymphatic issues, infection.

it has been a nightmare. I have 3 young children, beautiful wife, awesome well paying job. Don’t make a bad decision and screw things up guys. Don’t be greedy like I was. 
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Reklaw
@Toothman have you spoke to any Doctors about the long term consequences of swollen Lymph nodes?
Which dr injected it?
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hoddle10
Toothman wrote:
I had 10 vials of bellafill, 8cc of pmma placed, oct of 2018.  Erect I was 7.5 in length and 6 in girth. Fast forward to oct 2018. My girth erect is now 7 in, but natural healthy penis is so much better. 



So you gained 1" girth, from just 8cc of PMMA, on a penis that is 7.5" long? That would have to be a record and by a long way. Are you sure you don't have some kind of infection/complication, that i causing a mass swelling? Because I've been following PMMA progress reports on here since 2011 and based on that, I can't see how it's possible to make anywhere near such a big gain from such a small amount. Typically, a guy with your starting stats, would be lucky to a 0.25" gain from 8cc. 
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hoddle10
Here is the log of a guy who had 5cc of Bellafill. His starting size was 6.5 x 5.25. So the service area where the filler is placed as much smaller. He ended up with a 0.2" gain. That's typically what you'd expect from 8cc on a penis of your size. So I do wonder if you have an issue going on that has caused a long term swelling. I just can't see how you could have made such a big gain from such a small amount. It's too much of an outlier for it to be just a "really good gain" (I mean is size not overall result.)  

http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/2-weeks-post-op-with-dr-heller-lumpy-and-depressed-8417493?&trail=15

On a side note, I don't think Bellafill is a good choice, as the carrier is different. I remember Dr C saying he wouldn't use Bellafill because the water based carrier, and it's quick absorption, is key to his procedure.
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Toothman
AB244C3D-428A-4C51-8BA8-51ACE737CA0F.jpeg  A37D302C-E4B7-4372-ADC1-D37DE06CE962.jpeg  I went from a bit over 6 to a bit under 7 in base erect girth. Bellafill uses collagen as carrier. All I will say about provider is it is a lady derm in Chicago. She charged 5 k for 8 cc. I could send pics. 
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hoddle10
I can see the lumps. It does have similarities with Skippythewhale. Did she use a needle to inject it?

Personally I'd try and avoid surgery if I were you. It's a risky procedure. I think you should at least consider having Dr C to try and break up the lumps and try and smooth it out with some 10% PMMA. 
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Toothman
I know the surgery is very risky, and the question is, am I going to make things worse or better with surgery? I do not want to go to Mexico for treatment nor do I want to have more of this poison put in my body. I truly appreciate a potential solution but it’s not a road I want to go down. 

She used a cannula for placement. She has tried to break areas up with cannula. She has also used steroid injection which works a bit for a bit but then spot comes back. Plus steroid breaks down your skin over time. She has also tried the zimmer shock wave system to try and break up scar tissue too. The only choice I have at this point is leave alone and live with a bumpy penis that may flare up with a sore spot at any time or have a surgery to remove as much filler as possible. I really do feel the doc I am using in California knows his stuff and has had experience doing this. He said mine is less extensive of a case compared to his others. 
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Toothman
What did skippythewhale do and how did it turn out? 
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hoddle10
Skippy went to Dr C and he fixed things for him.  Personally, I think, if you are already prepared to have surgery, then I'd be inclined to go to Dr C. If things don't work out then you can go and have the surgery and the procedure will be the same. I seriously doubt Dr C would use much product on you, so I still think you'd fall into the "less extensive" category, if surgery was still required. 

The reason I'm guiding you away from surgery, is because I've had the same surgery, to remove fat. I dearly wish I'd not done it and instead gone to Dr C to even the fat out with PMMA. I've got curvature, skin adhesions and a lots of scar tissue as a result. 
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Toothman
Who did You have do your surgery?  
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Toothman
Didn’t darkstaff have the surgery also? Did that turn out ok? Basically going to be a 360 circ incision with full devolve. Also a two inch incision at base between balls and shaft.  Not looking forward to it at all. 
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hoddle10
My surgery was performed by David Ralph, in London. 

Darkstaff's turned out ok, but you can't predict how yours will turn out, based on his result. You may scar more easily than him. When they cut the PMMA out, it can cause scarring in the fascia, which can create restrictive bands of tissue that cause the penis to bend and can even fuse the skin to the shaft of the penis. Also keep in mind, Darkstaff had surgery after 20cc of PMMA. You've only had 8, so I think you can still add a bit more and would still qualify for the same surgery if necessary. 

I actually don't think Darkstaff received the appropriate treatment. I think he had an infection and rather than try and treat that with antibiotics, they just cut all the PMMA out. 
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Toothman
The doc I am seeing seems encouraged that the pmma has not bound to bucks fascia and the overlying skin still can be pulled away from the pmma as well. No good answer. Maybe I will have the doc conservatively remove areas that are modulated during devolve. I agree, if one gets too aggressive w removal one can remove all of the moveable fascia which can cause the overlying tissue to adhere to bucks fascia. That is where big problems come into play. I can’t believe fda approves a filler that cannot be reversed. Seems crazy. 
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Reklaw
@Toothman
Even after Darkstaff had his removed he had pmma in his Lymph nodes so by having it removed isn’t going to make any difference in that regard.
You should go to a doctor and ask if there are any consequences to having pmma in you Lymph nodes, I think the general consensus on here is that it’s doesn’t cause any harm, but this still seems to be a recurring issue and I don’t think anyone has got a definitive answer from a Physician if there are any long term health consequences of it.
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Toothman
According to studies, the size of pmma used in bellafill would prevent it from being phagocitized, and brought into lymph nodes. However, from what I am observing my lymph nodes on left base of penis and back of knee are swollen. This may be due to chronic inflammatory response to filler and uptick in macrophages and white blood cells, bit it may also be due to pmma in nodes. If pmma gets into nodes I think it would cause chronic inflammation in nodes and possible fibrosis of node which could lead to a big issue with lymph drainage and Lymphoedema. This is why having pmma removed seems like the only logical answer. 
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